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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2019, 11:06:49 am »


I think we should rehire Cam Cameron...that guy was awesome.


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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2019, 01:34:19 pm »

not sure what you’re saying. Are you saying Miami needs to find a qb and then a coach?

Btw ... Cleveland has a pretty good young team on both sides of the ball. The Jets have 100 million and a promising QB .... none of which Miami has.

I'm saying a HC wants to go to a team that either has a proven QB (Aaron Rodgers), or a team with a young QB that has potential.  So...if Miami wants a coach of their choosing they have to tell the prospective HC that either A) We are going all out this year to move up in the draft to get the best QB available, or B) It's okay if you have a terrible season in 2019 (ala John Gruden & the Raiders), because we are going all in on a QB in 2020.

IMO I don't see the Green Bay job as that attractive, unless the new HC is friends with Rodgers.  The Packers sucked this year because Rodgers didn't get along with the HC.  As for Cleveland, they still stunk this year, look who their wins were against.  It only seems great because it was such an improvement over the preceding 1-31 record.  IT's great the JETS have money, but if not spent wisely it can backfire.
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« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2019, 01:39:51 pm »

I think we should rehire Cam Cameron...that guy was awesome.


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Maybe the Dolphins could use Malcom to lure in John Harbaugh.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2019, 01:40:39 pm »

Both have significantly more cap space.  Both are younger, with players that are improving rather than guys that are post their prime.  Dolphins are in rebuilding mode without the most important tool needed to rebuild- cap space.

Considering that 80% of teams are within 25.2 +- 0.5 years, I'd argue that using average age is fairly irrelevant.
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« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2019, 03:21:57 pm »

OK here you go, Rizzi as HC, Todd Bowles as DC, and Dan Campbell as OC. LMAO.....

Edit - At first I posted this as sarcasm. But the more I think about it, the more I like it
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« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2019, 03:46:10 pm »

Maybe we should commit fully to a rebuild instead of being perennially mediocre. All 8-8 does is keep you at 8-8. I would much rather be 0-16 next year knowing that we can start fresh in 2020 than go 7-9 again with the same shit cap situation.
You will be happy then because this is exactly what Ross said we are doing. He also said Gase is gone because he wants to win now ... so it sounds like he didn't buy into the rebuild thing.
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« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2019, 03:49:11 pm »

Considering that 80% of teams are within 25.2 +- 0.5 years, I'd argue that using average age is fairly irrelevant.

Age is not irrelevant and I am not specifically concerned with a single number, but the make up of the team.  Do you have 2 or 3 rookies, that if you look back on the season you go well, we lost  few games early in the season because our rookies made some mistakes but we won a few in the later half because our rookies really improved.  Or did the team decline over the season due to wear and tear on vets that are on the decline rather than improving?

But I do consider the cap space issue to be a bigger issue on why Fins would be a less desirable landing spot than other teams.  
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« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2019, 03:58:25 pm »

Age is not irrelevant and I am not specifically concerned with a single number, but the make up of the team.  Do you have 2 or 3 rookies, that if you look back on the season you go well, we lost  few games early in the season because our rookies made some mistakes but we won a few in the later half because our rookies really improved.  Or did the team decline over the season due to wear and tear on vets that are on the decline rather than improving?

But I do consider the cap space issue to be a bigger issue on why Fins would be a less desirable landing spot than other teams.  
I agree with you Hoodie ... I've listened to a ton of so called experts this week and they all say age when factoring in teams. QB, status of the skill positions like QB, DE and WR and then salary caps and owner rep.
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« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2019, 05:00:26 pm »

Age is not irrelevant and I am not specifically concerned with a single number, but the make up of the team.

AVERAGE AGE is almost constant across the whole league, so it is pretty much irrelevant. That's what I said and you seem to be agreeing with me with your "not specifically concerned with a single number" thing, despite your message being structured as if you disagreed.
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« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2019, 05:06:15 pm »

AVERAGE AGE is almost constant across the whole league, so it is pretty much irrelevant. That's what I said and you seem to be agreeing with me with your "not specifically concerned with a single number" thing, despite your message being structured as if you disagreed.

By age of the team I meant, do you have a plethora of up and coming inexpensive rookies or vets that are in decline.  You have the latter, it is relevant.  You also have no cap space. 
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« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2019, 05:31:33 pm »

By age of the team I meant, do you have a plethora of up and coming inexpensive rookies or vets that are in decline.  You have the latter, it is relevant.  You also have no cap space. 

That might be what you meant, but that's not the numbers the referenced experts are talking about. They are directly referencing the average roster age where the Dolphins ranked in the bottom 25%. But the numbers are so tight that if you replace our long snapper with a rookie, we'd be in the top half instead of the bottom quarter.

There are much more meaningful parameters to look at, but they are not as easy to present on TV or radio as a single number, so average age it is.
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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2019, 05:54:24 pm »

By age of the team I meant, do you have a plethora of up and coming inexpensive rookies or vets that are in decline.  You have the latter, it is relevant.  You also have no cap space. 

Looking at it strictly your way, the Dolphins are REALLY YOUNG. They have 14 of 15 players they drafted in the past two years still under contract! That may or may not be a league best, but it's certainly going to be very close if it isn't.
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« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2019, 08:24:29 pm »

As for Cleveland, they still stunk this year, look who their wins were against.  It only seems great because it was such an improvement over the preceding 1-31 record.

As for Mayfield, he's Johnny Manziel lite; too much unknown.

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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2019, 01:12:25 pm »

We are requesting to interview Dennis Allen as a possible Head Coach. He is the Saints defensive coordinator and really turned around that team's defense as it was historically bad before he got there.

He was also the HC of the Raiders and sucked but he had Terrelle Pryor and whoever Matt McGloin is as his QBs, so that should get a pass. With the Saints set to make a deep run, if we want him we will probably have to wait awhile before it can become official. Plus, going from a winner in Nawlins to us makes one have second thoughts at the last minute.

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« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2019, 02:12:55 pm »

I think looking for a new coach is more about luck than skill. Frank Reich was only hired after Josh McDaniels screwed the Colts over and now they look like a genius ... although literally Luck had a lot to do with it. hahaha

Interesting and sad that Dan Campbell wasn't interested in coming back to Miami according to Armando Salguero

And this: Campbell, highly respected and already scheduled for three head coach interviews, was not interested in Miami, according to a league source
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