Super Bowl 53

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Was listening to the radio and the speculation was would more Patriots or Rams fans be in attendance.

Factors:

Patriots have a larger fan base than the Rams.  Rams have trouble getting people to go to home games.  But this is their third one in a row, folks willing to drop $10,000 for a once in a lifetime trip have already had multiple opportunities. 

Among the 30 neutral fan bases: NE has only one solid add on — The New Orleans Saints.  Most everyone else is a Rams fan.  But among the 29 there is some Patriots leaning fans because of the non PI call.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I disagree.  The burden of proof is on overturning the call.  The metric to overturn is "indisputable video evidence".  You seem to admit that it's reasonably disputable. 

That's why I have an issue.

The blown roughing call was just that -- probably more important of a call and it was just wrong.  But that's a human error judging something with only one crack at it.

When I say it could go either way, I agree with this from FMIA.....

"But no matter how many times I saw it, there was no evidence that the ball touched Edelman. I thought they got it right. I agreed with the reversal, but it was so close I would not have had any quibble if it stood.”

That is where I am going with this.  I think the refs got it right, by doing the reversal.  But if it had stood, I wouldn't have used that play as some sort of example of the Patriots being robbed.  On the other hand,  I think the refs got the call wrong on the roughing the passer call against Brady. 

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Was listening to the radio and the speculation was would more Patriots or Rams fans be in attendance.

Factors:

Patriots have a larger fan base than the Rams.  Rams have trouble getting people to go to home games.  But this is their third one in a row, folks willing to drop $10,000 for a once in a lifetime trip have already had multiple opportunities. 

Among the 30 neutral fan bases: NE has only one solid add on — The New Orleans Saints.  Most everyone else is a Rams fan.  But among the 29 there is some Patriots leaning fans because of the non PI call.

https://www.nj.com/sports/2019/01/super-bowl-2019-who-are-njs-nfl-fans-rooting-for-in-new-england-patriots-vs-los-angeles-rams-super-bowl-53.html

Patriots have more fans than I thought we would have....

The six states in New England of course.  And Louisiana is obvious.  But we got both the Carolina's.  Panther fans must not like the Rams.  I wonder if Michigan is because of Brady going to Michigan or if Lions fans hate the Rams.  North Dakota might just mean there is three Patriots fans and two Rams fans in the entire state.     

[Phishfan]

Was listening to the radio and the speculation was would more Patriots or Rams fans be in attendance.

Factors:

Patriots have a larger fan base than the Rams.  Rams have trouble getting people to go to home games.  But this is their third one in a row, folks willing to drop $10,000 for a once in a lifetime trip have already had multiple opportunities. 

Among the 30 neutral fan bases: NE has only one solid add on — The New Orleans Saints.  Most everyone else is a Rams fan.  But among the 29 there is some Patriots leaning fans because of the non PI call.

The Rams got more people at home games than the Patriots did for the season.

[CF DolFan]

This game is a lose-lose for me although I'll certainly watch every minute.  A Patriots win just adds to the legend that is Bellichick and Brady while a Rams win would elevate the current Sean McVay craziness. We are already at the point that if a person was ever on his same team that they must be a good coach. At this point .... I'm not sure I could handle much more of his legend.

[Tenshot13]

^You find this lose-lose, and call yourself a Dolphins fan?  

  Any way that NE loses is a win for us!

[pondwater]

Hope the Rams win so that I can see all the asshole Saints fans go ape shit and launch into orbit. I get them being upset, but Jesus Christ. Not sure why they're mad at the Rams. The Rams don't control the Refs. Were the Rams supposed to say, "that no-call wasn't fair, Saints can go to the Superbowl instead of us"?

If the situation was reversed and the Rams lost the game on that no-call. You can't tell me that the Saints fans would still be signing petitions, calling for a rematch, and filing lawsuits because they want the game to be fair for everyone . No, I'm fairly certain they would say, "tough shit, Saint in the Superbowl, who dat who dat". The hypocrisy is fucking ridiculous....

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

This game is a lose-lose for me although I'll certainly watch every minute.  A Patriots win just adds to the legend that is Bellichick and Brady while a Rams win would elevate the current Sean McVay craziness. We are already at the point that if a person was ever on his same team that they must be a good coach. At this point .... I'm not sure I could handle much more of his legend.

I dont buy just because you work with McVay you are going to become a great coach, Belichick and Shula are both great coaches, but none of their magic rubbed off onto assistants. 

However the more. I hear about McVay the more impressed I become.  He is young enough and talented enough to retire with enough wins to leave Shula’s record in the dust.  BB might overtake Shula for combined regular and post season wins, but no way BB will touch regular season alone. 

[Fau Teixeira]

the saints did get majorly screwed tho .. for real

[pondwater]

the saints did get majorly screwed tho .. for real

Yep, I agree and I get it. But what the fuck do they expect? Shit happens. You wouldn't believe all the tin foil hat shit I've heard this week. It's not like no other teams have been majorly screwed before.

[Dolphster]

Yep, I agree and I get it. But what the fuck do they expect? Shit happens. You wouldn't believe all the tin foil hat shit I've heard this week. It's not like no other teams have been majorly screwed before.

Agreed.  The Saints are "my NFC team" and I was majorly pizzed when the non-call happened.  But blown calls happen in the NFL  Always have and always will.  If the Saints had played a decent second half, that blown call would have been a non factor.  The timing of the non-call was horrible, but poopoo happens. 

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Agreed.  The Saints are "my NFC team" and I was majorly pizzed when the non-call happened.  But blown calls happen in the NFL  Always have and always will.  If the Saints had played a decent second half, that blown call would have been a non factor.  The timing of the non-call was horrible, but poopoo happens. 

In general I take that attitude.  But if you were going to put together the top 10 worst officiating of all time  that one would make the list.  Wouldnt be number one, that honor goes to the 72 men’s olympic basketball.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Certainly sounds like Drew Brees is much more of a professional than Sean Payton one is focused on one play outside his control, the other acknowledges that there were plenty of other plays in that game that the Saints had done a better job with they would have won. 

[Dave Gray]

The Saints got a call missed.  ...it happens to every team.  This was just under a magnifying glass because it was at a crucial time. 

The angle was weird.  In the moment, I thought the call was correct.  There is no replay allowed for it, though, so what can you do.  It's just part of the game.

[pondwater]

The Saints got a call missed.  ...it happens to every team.  This was just under a magnifying glass because it was at a crucial time.  

The angle was weird.  In the moment, I thought the call was correct.  There is no replay allowed for it, though, so what can you do.  It's just part of the game.

Fuck the Saints. If the situation was reversed and the Rams lost, they wouldn't be saying shit. There would be no petitions to replay the game, no lawsuits, and no crying for "fairness for all". Nope, they would say, "tough shit, Saints in the Superbowl, whodat, whodat. One of the worst fanbases in the NFL. Now they all saying they ain't watching the game. I call bullshit. Sounds like all the Hillary supporters and NeverTrumpers saying they're leaving the country.

I'm OK with the Patriots winning. However, I'm in Saints territory and I hope the Rams win. Like I said earlier in the thread, I can sit back and watch all the WhoDats go apeshit and launch into orbit. Social media will be better than the game itself.

Was it a bad call? Yep, but one call doesn't decide a game. They had many other opportunities. The fact is that they shit the bed 2 years in a row. Hope they shit the bed next year too, that's all........