Ryan Tannehill

[Tenshot13]

^All of them have Superbowl rings btw.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Dave Hyde ... He’s not just succeeding. He’s excelling. He led the league in passer rating (117.5). Only Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers and Nick Foles have finished with higher passer ratings. Oh, and he was the AFC Player of the Month.

He's excelling without becoming a different QB. He has always been a very high level game manager who can pass for high accuracy and go downfield a bit. His issues in Miami were lack of talent and running for his life on every play. He won't win a gunslinger battle against Drew Brees but you can still win a Superbowl with Tanny and I hope Tennessee does.

[fyo]

He's excelling without becoming a different QB. He has always been a very high level game manager who can pass for high accuracy and go downfield a bit. His issues in Miami were lack of talent and running for his life on every play. He won't win a gunslinger battle against Drew Brees but you can still win a Superbowl with Tanny and I hope Tennessee does.

One of the many issues with Tannehill in Miami was that the play calling was abysmal. Yes, part of it was (lack of) talent, but when your team performs league worst in screen passes, wh MAYBE not have your team lead the league in calling screen passes. There were a couple of other weak points that we kept trying week after week like short out routes / stays. At least prior to Gase, we were among the worst in that category as well. On the other hand, the Dolphins we very successful pushing the ball down field, but that's something our coaches were loath to do. We also called way fewer slants than average, despite seeing top tier production (at least some years).

[DZA]

Congratulations Tannehill for defeating the Pats.

[dolphins4life]

That is Tannehill's first career victory over Brady in Gilette.     

[Pappy13]

That is Tannehill's first career victory over Brady in Gilette.     

He's 5-6 lifetime against Brady. 2nd most wins of any QB in the history of the NFL behind only Peyton.

https://www.reddit.com/r/miamidolphins/comments/ekdra8/ryan_tannehill_has_5_wins_as_a_starting/

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

He's 5-6 lifetime against Brady. 2nd most wins of any QB in the history of the NFL behind only Peyton.

https://www.reddit.com/r/miamidolphins/comments/ekdra8/ryan_tannehill_has_5_wins_as_a_starting/

I am not sure if I agree with the poster using “trailing”.  5-6 is virtually even, 6-11 is being dominated.

[Pappy13]

I am not sure if I agree with the poster using “trailing”.  5-6 is virtually even, 6-11 is being dominated.

I had a long e-mail thread going on with a radio talk show host in Dallas last year about the Patriots and their success during the Brady years. His take on it was that the AFCE other than New England has been complete garbage for all of Brady's years which is why he's had so much success. I pointed out that Miami actually has a pretty decent record against Brady when you consider how he's done against the league as a whole and especially in Miami. Then I pointed out that even if the Bills, Dolphins and Jets have been garbage as he says, then everyone in the AFC has apparently been garbage since Brady took over considering their success both in the regular season and the playoffs. This was Brady's record against the NFL at the time.

Opponent                  GMs  Won  Loss Winning %
Seattle Seahawks        3      1      2      33.33%
Carolina Panthers        5      2      3      40.00%
Arizona Cardinals        2      1      1      50.00%
Denver Broncos          13     7      6      53.85%
Green Bay Packers      5      3      2      60.00%
Kansas City Chiefs      8       5     3       62.50%
Miami Dolphins           33    22    11     66.67%
Detroit Lions              6      4      2      66.67%
San Francisco 49ers    3      2      1      66.67%
Ten Titans/Hou Oilers   7      5      2      71.43%
Pittsburgh Steelers     11     8      3      72.73%
LA/ San Diego Chrgrs  8      6      2      75.00%
New York Giants          4      3      1      75.00%
Philadelphia Eagles     4       3      1      75.00%
LA/STL Rams             4      3      1      75.00%
Washington Redskins   4      3      1      75.00%
Indi/Bal Colts             14     11    3      78.57%
New York Jets             34      27    7      79.41%
Oak/LA Raiders           5      4     1       80.00%
New Orleans Saints    5      4     1          80.00%
Jacksonville Jaguars   6      5     1       83.33%
Baltimore Ravens       7      6     1       85.71%
Cincinnati Bengals      7      6     1       85.71%
Cleveland Browns       7      6     1      85.71%
Houston Texans           8      7     1       87.50%
Buffalo Bills                33      30    3      90.91%
Atlanta Falcons           5      5     0       100.00%
Chicago Bears            5      5     0       100.00%
Dallas Cowboys           4      4     0       100.00%
Minnesota Vikings       5       5     0      100.00%
Tampa Bay Bucs          4      4     0       100.00%
Totals                         269   207  62     76.95%

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^^^

Chicken/egg question. 
Was NE successful because the rest of the AFCE was weak or was NE's absolute dominance over every team in the NFL make it near impossible for other AFCE teams to be successful. 

A few things suggest the latter....1) that NE was rarely one and done in the playoffs.  If it was truly the case that NE won the division by default (like the Eagles did this year) you would see them going one and done more frequently.  2) NE having approximately the same level of success vs. AFCE teams as the rest of the league.  3) Overall the AFCE vs non-AFCE teams is on par with most divisions.  (Granted a many of those wins came from NE) 4) If the AFCE was week you would expect to see below average representation of AFCE teams in the playoffs.  From 2001-2019 the AFCE has had 10 wildcard teams.  There are two per year over 20 years is a total of 40 divided by 4 divisions means each they sent the exact average number. 5)The only team that was able to consistently challenge  NE over many games other than Miami was Denver.  If it was truly the case of the AFCE being weak you would expect other good teams (Pitt, Colts, Ravens) all having better win percentage than Miami. 

[BuccaneerBrad]

I had a long e-mail thread going on with a radio talk show host in Dallas last year about the Patriots and their success during the Brady years. His take on it was that the AFCE other than New England has been complete garbage for all of Brady's years which is why he's had so much success. I pointed out that Miami actually has a pretty decent record against Brady when you consider how he's done against the league as a whole and especially in Miami. Then I pointed out that even if the Bills, Dolphins and Jets have been garbage as he says, then everyone in the AFC has apparently been garbage since Brady took over considering their success both in the regular season and the playoffs. This was Brady's record against the NFL at the time.

Opponent                  GMs  Won  Loss Winning %
Seattle Seahawks        3      1      2      33.33%
Carolina Panthers        5      2      3      40.00%
Arizona Cardinals        2      1      1      50.00%
Denver Broncos          13     7      6      53.85%
Green Bay Packers      5      3      2      60.00%
Kansas City Chiefs      8       5     3       62.50%
Miami Dolphins           33    22    11     66.67%
Detroit Lions              6      4      2      66.67%
San Francisco 49ers    3      2      1      66.67%
Ten Titans/Hou Oilers   7      5      2      71.43%
Pittsburgh Steelers     11     8      3      72.73%
LA/ San Diego Chrgrs  8      6      2      75.00%
New York Giants          4      3      1      75.00%
Philadelphia Eagles     4       3      1      75.00%
LA/STL Rams             4      3      1      75.00%
Washington Redskins   4      3      1      75.00%
Indi/Bal Colts             14     11    3      78.57%
New York Jets             34      27    7      79.41%
Oak/LA Raiders           5      4     1       80.00%
New Orleans Saints    5      4     1          80.00%
Jacksonville Jaguars   6      5     1       83.33%
Baltimore Ravens       7      6     1       85.71%
Cincinnati Bengals      7      6     1       85.71%
Cleveland Browns       7      6     1      85.71%
Houston Texans           8      7     1       87.50%
Buffalo Bills                33      30    3      90.91%
Atlanta Falcons           5      5     0       100.00%
Chicago Bears            5      5     0       100.00%
Dallas Cowboys           4      4     0       100.00%
Minnesota Vikings       5       5     0      100.00%
Tampa Bay Bucs          4      4     0       100.00%
Totals                         269   207  62     76.95%

These numbers do not reflect playoff games

[Pappy13]

These numbers do not reflect playoff games

That's true, but are you suggesting that adding playoff games would change much? I doubt it would.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

That's true, but are you suggesting that adding playoff games would change much? I doubt it would.

In the playoffs the Patriots since 2001 are ~75% outside the division and 50% inside the division.  (Jets 1-1)

[Pappy13]

I redid the numbers including playoff games. I think this is accurate, gets a little tricky with teams changing cities etc. Not a big difference in my opinion. Changes certain teams like the Giants, Ravens and Broncos a bit, but overall not a significant difference. Dolphins still have a wining percentage against Brady better then league average. You could argue it's the Jets and Bills that have allowed the Patriots to rule the division, but as Hoodie mentioned, is that because they've been bad or New England has been good. Seems to be the latter when you take all the teams records against Brady into account.

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Opponent	        Games	Won	Loss	Winning %
Denver Broncos	       15	7	8	46.67%
Arizona Cardinals	2	1	1	50.00%
Seattle Seahawks	4	2	2	50.00%
New York Giants	        7	4	3	57.14%
Carolina Panthers	5	3	2	60.00%
Green Bay Packers	5	3	2	60.00%
Baltimore Ravens	11	7	4	63.64%
Kansas City Chiefs	11	7	4	63.64%
Detroit Lions	        6	4	2	66.67%
Miami Dolphins	        33	22	11	66.67%
San Francisco 49ers	3	2	1	66.67%
Tennesee Titans	        10	7	3	70.00%
Philadelphia Eagles	7	5	2	71.43%
New Orleans Saints	4	3	1	75.00%
Indianapolis Colts	18	14	4	77.78%
Pittsburgh Steelers	14	11	3	78.57%
Houston Texans	        10	8	2	80.00%
Washington Redskins	5	4	1	80.00%
New York Jets	        36	29	7	80.56%
San Diego Chargers	11	9	2	81.82%
LA  Rams                  6	5	1	83.33%
Oakland/LA Raiders	6	5	1	83.33%
Cleveland Browns	7	6	1	85.71%
Jacksonville Jaguars	9	8	1	88.89%
Buffalo Bills	        33	30	3	90.91%
Atlanta Falcons	        5	5	0	100.00%
Chicago Bears	        5	5	0	100.00%
Cincinnati Bengals	7	7	0	100.00%
Dallas Cowboys	        5	5	0	100.00%
Minnesota Vikings	5	5	0	100.00%
Tampa Bay Bucs    	3	3	0	100.00%
	                        308	236	72	76.62%

[MaineDolFan]

The total yards are underwhelming but our man had a QBR over 115 tonight, 2 TDS in the air, one on the ground and took care of the ball. Zero turnovers.

He’s gone on the road and taken out the Pats and now the #1 seed.

You do you, 17. This is awesome.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

The total yards are underwhelming but our man had a QBR over 115 tonight, 2 TDS in the air, one on the ground and took care of the ball. Zero turnovers.

He’s gone on the road and taken out the Pats and now the #1 seed.

You do you, 17. This is awesome.

SB could be former Dolphins QB vs former Patriots QB.  Go Jimmy G!