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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2020, 11:51:12 am »

I see people trying their best to make this sound like a smart move but I honestly don't get the warm fuzzies from any angle I currently am looking from.

I get it, I understand your point and there is some validity to it.  I'm not running around yelling, "10-6 here we come in 2020" but I am of a mindset of wait and see, just like I did with Flores and the whole "tank for Tua" mindset that prevailed with fans online and the MIA beat writers.

With regards to Brees and Gailey's opinion, I would love to see what his draft status when he came out and what others said about him.  I watched him maybe 10-12 times over his career at Purdue and I saw a talented player, undersized, mobile but played in the Big Ten.

When the Brees lottery hit a 5 years later is when everyone knew they had in Brees as a player, as he showed he could do the job in SD when he got the opportunity.

That Brees blunder in MIA is still on our good friend Danny Kannell's old man who said that Culpepper would recover quick and be more effective with the knee repair.  Saban wanted Brees, this is not disputed

I hope he pans out, but we'll have to wait and see.

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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2020, 11:59:56 am »

I don't think it matters all that much who the OC is in relation to Fitz.  Fitz is not some rookie or sophomore QB that needs to be coddled; he's been around the blockS and knows his job.  If they brought in an OC that Fitz had played for, and hated, well that's a different story.
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2020, 11:28:44 am »

The off season coaching changes are real head scratchers. 
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2020, 12:47:44 pm »

The off season coaching changes are real head scratchers. 

Giants were hoping for the Baylor coach but he wasn't even allowed to leave Carolina because they wanted him so bad. So now they got the Pats WR coach as Head Coach and Jason Garrett will probably be OC? That's incredibly uninspiring.
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2020, 12:59:51 pm »

Giants were hoping for the Baylor coach but he wasn't even allowed to leave Carolina because they wanted him so bad. So now they got the Pats WR coach as Head Coach and Jason Garrett will probably be OC? That's incredibly uninspiring.

I meant Dolphins.  You just hired a high school coach for some reason.
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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2020, 02:32:48 pm »

I meant Dolphins.  You just hired a high school coach for some reason.

I saw that too and had a WTF moment. 
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2020, 02:33:37 pm »

I meant Dolphins.  You just hired a high school coach for some reason.
To coach the cornerbacks it would seem.
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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2020, 03:03:35 pm »

To coach the cornerbacks it would seem.

Well, as an assistant to the guy who coaches the cornerbacks.
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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2020, 11:08:04 am »

Just in case you were wondering why Chan Gailey....

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article239028693.html
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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2020, 11:32:15 am »

It seems like players who trouble picking up offenses have a hard time succeeding. I can't think of a time when we have ever "dumbed" down an offense that it actually made it better.
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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2020, 12:12:25 pm »

i think that is short sighted.Dumbing down a system never works, The Patriots system proved successful not just with Brady but also Cassel, Jimmy G and Brissett.  Many of the Dolphin players that struggled with the system early in the season were picking it up by the end of the season as indicated by starting 0-7 and ending 2-0.  Unless the plans is to implement a high school system, Rosen would have a better understanding of O’Sheas system after two camps, rwo OTAs and a season than he will with Gailey’s after one OTA and camp.

Draft smart player, give them time to develop and if they master the better system extend their contracts.  If that means you go 6-10 this season so be the goal should be to build a team capable of being a dynasty that can win multiple super bowls, not having a system so simple it can be picked up quickly.
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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2020, 12:20:40 pm »

It seems like players who trouble picking up offenses have a hard time succeeding. I can't think of a time when we have ever "dumbed" down an offense that it actually made it better.

Agreed, but that doesn't mean that O'Shea's system was going to work in the long run for us. We hired a professional with a track record of success in Gailey. It's not the most inspiring hire but he isn't some dope from the stands who just tells the WRs to go long either.
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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2020, 12:31:31 pm »

Agreed, but that doesn't mean that O'Shea's system was going to work in the long run for us. We hired a professional with a track record of success in Gailey. It's not the most inspiring hire but he isn't some dope from the stands who just tells the WRs to go long either.

Actually it was working for you.  Given how quickly the changes occurred obviously the decision was made weeks before the season ended, not based on a review of the entire season.   This decision was made before the Dolphins offense generated over 500 yards and followed it by beating the reigning world champions and current #1 defense giving an all pro CB the worst game of his career.   The last two weeks of the season should have caused the Dolphins to pause, think and realize O’Shea’s system works once you get the hang of it and there was no reason to replace it with one drawn in crayon.
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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2020, 01:45:33 pm »

But was it really working? We didn't have a run game all season and basically just let Fitzpatrick air it out. Lots of those passes were caught just by the sheer athleticism of Parker and later on Gisecki who really turned the corner.  I'm not ready to say this was a bad move until we see what Gailey can do in 2020.
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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2020, 03:25:23 pm »

I think it's a bit short sighted to say that Gailey's system is dumbed down, it's just easier to pickup, meaning it doesn't take a year to figure out that's all. It's not like Gailey hasn't coached in a decade and his scheme is outdated or vanilla, the Jets offense with Gailey was pretty solid in 2015 and he had Fitzpatrick as his QB and Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker as his WR's, not exactly world beating talent to work with there. It could very well be another 1 year contract and Chan's out of here next year, but let's at least see it before we toss it.
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