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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2020, 05:37:56 pm »

I'm not one of those people, Zach is a HoF player and it's a shame he didn't get in.

Agreed with Zach should be getting in.  Eli is going to get in though I truly don't believe he is a HOFer

My three things for HOF:
1. Did you play at a high level
2. Did you play at a high level for a long period of time
3. You being on the field, off the field, made a difference in the outcomes of games

Winning SB's is nice, and has to be factored in, but NYG beating the Patriots on a flukey catch by someone who made 4 catches all season, and then beating them again after Brady overshot Welker on a deep out, does not make you a HOF.  I would say his NYG team's DEFENSE were the difference in those games

Plus, the dude was .500 in overall winning.

For the record, I don't believe Bob Griese is a HOF QB
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2020, 09:34:33 am »

Agreed with Zach should be getting in.  Eli is going to get in though I truly don't believe he is a HOFer

My three things for HOF:
1. Did you play at a high level
2. Did you play at a high level for a long period of time
3. You being on the field, off the field, made a difference in the outcomes of games
You don't believe that Manning did all 3 of those things? I don't think you have really be paying much attention to his career then. I'm not Eli fan, but he did all those things without question.
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2020, 10:05:19 am »

You don't believe that Manning did all 3 of those things? I don't think you have really be paying much attention to his career then. I'm not Eli fan, but he did all those things without question.

Eli was very inconsistent.  Some years he was a top 5 QB other years he just sucked. 

He was never the best QB in the league. 

If he gets in it will because of the reasons spider mentioned “fame” Largest market, twice being on the winning side against the dynasty that is NE, as opposed to “greatness “. 
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2020, 02:30:59 pm »

Eli was very inconsistent.  Some years he was a top 5 QB other years he just sucked.  
I think that's a bit of an over simplification. Some years he was really good, some years just pretty good and a couple he was bad especially early in his career, but overall he was pretty good.

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Year	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	        Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
2004 9 7 1-6-0 95 197 48.2       1043 6 3.0 9 4.6 50 52 5.3 3.8 11.0 115.9 55.4 13 83 4.57 3.21 6.2 1 1 -1
2005 16 16 11-5-0 294 557 52.8       3762 24 4.3 17 3.1 176 78 6.8 6.2 12.8 235.1 75.9 28 184 6.12 5.63 4.8 1 2 14
2006 16 16 8-8-0 301 522 57.7       3244 24 4.6 18 3.4 162 55 6.2 5.6 10.8 202.8 77.0 52.3 25 186 5.59 4.99 4.6 2 2 11
2007 16 16 10-6-0 297 529 56.1       3336 23 4.3 20 3.8 167 60 6.3 5.5 11.2 208.5 73.9 54.6 27 217 5.61 4.82 4.9 3 3 10
2008 16 16 12-4-0 289 479 60.3       3238 21 4.4 10 2.1 168 48 6.8 6.7 11.2 202.4 86.4 63.2 27 174 6.06 6.00 5.3 3 3 12
2009 16 16 8-8-0 317 509 62.3       4021 27 5.3 14 2.8 183 74 7.9 7.7 12.7 251.3 93.1 69.8 30 216 7.06 6.89 5.6 1 2 13
2010 16 16 10-6-0 339 539 62.9       4002 31 5.8 25 4.6 169 92 7.4 6.5 11.8 250.1 85.3 61.1 16 117 7.00 6.09 2.9 1 1 12
2011 16 16 9-7-0 359 589 61.0       4933 29 4.9 16 2.7 218 99 8.4 8.1 13.7 308.3 92.9 64.0 28 199 7.67 7.45 4.5 5 6 15
2012 16 16 9-7-0 321 536 59.9       3948 26 4.9 15 2.8 187 80 7.4 7.1 12.3 246.8 87.2 67.0 19 136 6.87 6.59 3.4 3 3 15
2013 16 16 7-9-0 317 551 57.5       3818 18 3.3 27 4.9 174 70 6.9 5.4 12.0 238.6 69.4 39.3 39 281 5.99 4.55 6.6 1 2 7
2014 16 16 6-10-0 379 601 63.1       4410 30 5.0 14 2.3 219 80 7.3 7.3 11.6 275.6 92.1 62.5 28 187 6.71 6.67 4.5 1 1 12
2015 16 16 6-10-0 387 618 62.6       4432 35 5.7 14 2.3 206 87 7.2 7.3 11.5 277.0 93.6 60.5 27 157 6.63 6.74 4.2 1 2 14
2016 16 16 11-5-0 377 598 63.0       4027 26 4.3 16 2.7 191 75 6.7 6.4 10.7 251.7 86.0 49.3 21 142 6.28 5.95 3.4 3 6 9
2017 15 15 3-12-0 352 571 61.6       3468 19 3.3 13 2.3 172 77 6.1 5.7 9.9 231.2 80.4 45.4 31 189 5.45 5.11 5.1 0 1 7
2018 16 16 5-11-0 380 576 66.0       4299 21 3.6 11 1.9 205 58 7.5 7.3 11.3 268.7 92.4 48.7 47 358 6.33 6.21 7.5 1 2 12
2019 4 4 1-3-0 91 147 61.9       1042 6 4.1 5 3.4 47 55 7.1 6.4 11.5 260.5 82.6 29.6 5 44 6.57 5.88 3.3 3
Car  236 234 117-117-0 4895 8119 60.3     57023 366 4.5 244 3.0 2694 99 7.0 6.6 11.6 241.6 84.1        411 2870 6.35 5.92 4.8 27 37 165

He was never the best QB in the league.  
For a whole season probably not but he had 2 playoff runs where I think you could argue he was the best QB in the playoffs those 2 years. You're not giving him his due, but you're not alone. I understand your argument, I just don't agree with it.

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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2020, 11:51:06 am »

Like Deion Sanders said,  They elect who they want and anybody in the HOF these days  Huh Case, why Urlacher is in instead of Zach Thomas who had a better career minus a SB
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