COVID-19

[Spider-Dan]

California's Gov. Newsom just announced that CA has inked a deal for 200 million masks per month (150M N95, 50M surgical) with the ability to potentially distribute them to other states in need.

https://twitter.com/MaddowBlog/status/1247698364063518720

[Tenshot13]

So I see a lot of comments on the internet bashing the US and how other countries are handling this better.  When the populations are closer in number it shows a different story.  I would like to know people's opinions on this here.

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1249182592659849217?s=19

Ryan Saavedra
@RealSaavedra
U.S. population: 328,000,000

France/Germany/Italy/U.K./Spain population: 324,000,000

Coronavirus cases:

-U.S.: 526,396
-F/G/I/UK/S: 650,807

Coronavirus deaths:

-U.S.: 20,463
-F/G/I/UK/S: 62,553

Source: Johns Hopkins University & Medicine Coronavirus Resource Center

[Spider-Dan]

You're talking about 5 countries with 5 entirely different governments.  There is no single entity with the power to, say, issue a shelter-in-place order across all 5 countries.

[Tenshot13]

You're talking about 5 countries with 5 entirely different governments.  There is no single entity with the power to, say, issue a shelter-in-place order across all 5 countries.

European Union?  Other than the UK.

[Spider-Dan]

The EU cannot unilaterally issue those kinds of orders like our federal government can.  The EU also doesn't have an equivalent of FEMA, or the Army Corps of Engineers.

[BuccaneerBrad]

^^^^

And every single one of those countries has a smaller land mass and smaller population than some U.S. States.

On an entirely separate note, I'm going to call this the CCP Virus.  CCP = Chinese Communist Party.   They knew about this as far back as early December, but sat on the information for six weeks.   They also imprisoned and/or executed the whistle-blowers who tried to get the information out to the world media.

[Spider-Dan]

Please take the virus-naming talk to another thread.  Thanks.

[CF DolFan]

So I see a lot of comments on the internet bashing the US and how other countries are handling this better.  When the populations are closer in number it shows a different story.  I would like to know people's opinions on this here.

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1249182592659849217?s=19

Ryan Saavedra
@RealSaavedra
U.S. population: 328,000,000

France/Germany/Italy/U.K./Spain population: 324,000,000

Coronavirus cases:

-U.S.: 526,396
-F/G/I/UK/S: 650,807

Coronavirus deaths:

-U.S.: 20,463
-F/G/I/UK/S: 62,553

Source: Johns Hopkins University & Medicine Coronavirus Resource Center

Media is doing everything they can to frighten people.  They are a part of the system to make Trump look bad and will say anything. I almost laughed out loud when we "surpassed" Italy. A country barely larger than Florida. Once we surpass the numbers of H1N1 under Obama then maybe I'll give some time in listening to media. As it is ... I still remember when Trump was constantly being attacked for doing things too early.

Like I said before ... It won't be time to judge Trump, Cuomo, Desantis, or whomever until this thing is done and then it needs to only be done in the eye of looking to never repeat. In 2004 we had three hurricanes pass over Central Florida and we failed miserably in a lot of ways. The good thing is we learned so much that similar conditions almost go unnoticed because of the upgrades to policy, procedures, and equipment. I fully expect the same to happen after this.

[fyo]

Media is doing everything they can to frighten people.  They are a part of the system to make Trump look bad and will say anything. I almost laughed out loud when we "surpassed" Italy. A country barely larger than Florida. Once we surpass the numbers of H1N1 under Obama then maybe I'll give some time in listening to media. As it is ... I still remember when Trump was constantly being attacked for doing things too early.

Like I said before ... It won't be time to judge Trump, Cuomo, Desantis, or whomever until this thing is done and then it needs to only be done in the eye of looking to never repeat. In 2004 we had three hurricanes pass over Central Florida and we failed miserably in a lot of ways. The good thing is we learned so much that similar conditions almost go unnoticed because of the upgrades to policy, procedures, and equipment. I fully expect the same to happen after this.

Hopefully, we'll have some better antibiotics the next time a novel virus shows it's germy little face.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Hopefully, we'll have some better antibiotics the next time a novel virus shows it's germy little face.

That is impossible.  A scientific impossibility. 

Antibiotics fight diseases caused by bacteria, not viruses.   

[CF DolFan]

That is impossible.  A scientific impossibility.  

Antibiotics fight diseases caused by bacteria, not viruses.  

And what's worse ... it appears this virus can reinfect those that have antibodies. If I understand this correctly I would think this means vaccines will be useless.

[Spider-Dan]

Once we surpass the numbers of H1N1 under Obama then maybe I'll give some time in listening to media.

From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, there were 12,469 deaths in the US from H1N1.
From February 29, 2020 to today (less than 7 weeks), there have been 23,330 deaths in the US from CV-19.
Keep in mind that the former number is entirely in hindsight months later, after plenty of time to research and categorize all the deaths.  There are thousands of people dying at home in NY who are not currently categorized as CV-19 deaths, but may be later.

Sad to see people still trying to downplay and softsell this virus.  It is not H1N1, it is not the flu.  It is far more deadly than either.

Here's another disappointing example:

Coronavirus: Pastor who decried 'hysteria' dies after attending Mardi Gras

Key quotes:

- Pastor Spradlin's son, Landon Isaac, 32, told me that he and his father had talked and agreed about what they felt was an irrational frenzy and fear mongering about the virus, perhaps because it was an election year.

- "I was frustrated with the way that the media was very agenda driven - and it's on both sides. I feel like the coronavirus issue turned into something that was 'party against party' instead of one nation under God," [Spradlin's daughter] says.

The fear was entirely rational.  At the end of the day, when the body count is tallied, it won't matter which party said what; all that will matter is which officials took this crisis seriously and acted with urgency, and which ones tried to deemphasize the risk and minimize their action.

[Dave Gray]

I need some clarification on something I literally don't understand.  I'm not politically trolling -- I legitimately don't get it.

Our Governor, Ron Desantis, has been floating the idea of getting kids back to school.  ....like, as early as May 1st, in some reports.  Now, that's not happening, so I'm not worried about it, but my question is WHY?

I don't understand the value that it brings you, even if it were to be harmless.  I get wanting to start the economy back up and get people back working and all that -- but kids aren't working.  They don't help the economy.  And the teachers are working remotely and getting paid and the kids are still receiving some level of education.

So, I would at least understand wanting to open non-essential businesses again at a rate that could risk infection....like restaurants and bars, but why schools?  That doesn't stimulate the economy at all.

[Brian Fein]

I need some clarification on something I literally don't understand.  I'm not politically trolling -- I legitimately don't get it.

Our Governor, Ron Desantis, has been floating the idea of getting kids back to school.  ....like, as early as May 1st, in some reports.  Now, that's not happening, so I'm not worried about it, but my question is WHY?

I don't understand the value that it brings you, even if it were to be harmless.  I get wanting to start the economy back up and get people back working and all that -- but kids aren't working.  They don't help the economy.  And the teachers are working remotely and getting paid and the kids are still receiving some level of education.

So, I would at least understand wanting to open non-essential businesses again at a rate that could risk infection....like restaurants and bars, but why schools?  That doesn't stimulate the economy at all.

because it's a stepping stone to opening up everything else...?

[fyo]

That is impossible.  A scientific impossibility. 

Antibiotics fight diseases caused by bacteria, not viruses.   

Really? I'm pretty sure 45 knows better than some random dude on a website.