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dolphins4life
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« on: March 31, 2020, 11:28:02 pm »

Saw this on facebook.  Is it true?  I have my skeptism:

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So I thought I would throw up a little history lesson for everyone on both sides of the political divide. I think it’s important that we understand the truth, especially come November when it’s time to vote. Forgive the length. But, hey we all have time on our hands to read, right?

In December 2013, an 18-month-old boy in Guinea was bitten by a bat. Then there were five more fatal cases. When Ebola spread out of the Guinea borders into neighboring Liberia and Sierra Leone in July 2014, President Obama activated the Emergency Operations Center at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. The CDC immediately deployed CDC personnel to West Africa to coordinate a response that included vector tracing, testing, education, logistics and communication.

Altogether, the CDC, under President Obama, trained 24,655 medical workers in West Africa, educating them on how to prevent and control the disease before a single case left Africa or reached the U.S.

Working with the U.N. and the World Health Organization President Obama ordered the re-routing of travelers heading to the U.S. through certain specific airports equipped to handle mass testing.

Back home in America, more than 6,500 people were trained through mock outbreaks and practice scenarios. That was done before a single case hit America.

Three months after President Obama activated this unprecedented response, on September 30, 2014, we got our first case in the U.S.. That man had traveled from West Africa to Dallas, Texas and had somehow slipped through the testing protocol. He was immediately detected and isolated. He died a week later. Two nurses who tended to him contracted Ebola and later recovered. All the protocols had worked. It was contained.

The Ebola epidemic could have easily become a pandemic. But thanks to the actions of our government under Obama, it never did. Those three cases were the ONLY cases of ebola in our country because Obama did what needed to be done three months before the first case.

Ebola is even more contagious than Covid-19. If he Obama not done these things, millions of Americans would have died awful painful deaths like something out of a horror movie (if you’ve ever seen how Ebola kills, it’s horrific).
It’s ironic that BECAUSE President Obama did these things - we forget that he did them, because the disease never reached our shores.

Now the story of Covid 19 and Trump’s response that we know about so far:

Before anyone even knew about the disease (even in China) Trump disbanded the pandemic response team that Obama had put in place. He cut funding to the CDC. And he cut our contribution to the World Health Organization (WHO).

Trump fired Rear Admiral Timothy Ziemer, the person on the National Security Council in charge of stopping the spread of infectious diseases before they reach our country - a position created by the Obama administration.

When the Outbreak started in China, Trump assumed it was China’s problem and sent no research, supplies or help of any kind. We were in a trade war, why should he help them?

In January he received a briefing from our intelligence organizations that the outbreak was much worse than China was admitting and that it would definitely hit our country if something wasn’t done to prevent it. He ignored the report, not trusting our own intelligence.

When the disease spread to Europe, the World Health Organization offered a boatload of tests to the United States. Trump turned them down, saying private companies here would make the tests “better” if we needed them. But he never ordered U.S. companies to make tests and they had no profit motive to do so on their own.

According to scientists at Yale and several public university medical schools, when they asked for permission to start working on our own testing protocol and potential treatments or vaccines, they were denied by Trump’s FDA.

When Trump knew about the first case in the United States he did nothing. It was just one case and the patient was isolated. When doctors and scientists started screaming in the media that this was a mistake, Trump claimed it was a “liberal hoax” conjured up to try to make him “look bad after impeachment failed.”

The next time Trump spoke of Covid-19, we had 64 confirmed cases but Trump went before microphones and told the America public that we only had 15 cases “and pretty soon that number will be close to zero.” All while the disease was spreading. He took no action to get more tests.

What Trump did do is stop flights from China from coming here. This was too late and accomplished nothing according to scientists and doctors. By then the disease was worldwide and was already spreading exponentially in the U.S. by Americans, not Chinese people as Trump would like you to believe.

As of the moment I’m posting this, the morning of March 22, 2020, we have 15,220 CONFIRMED CASES in the U.S. The actual number is undoubtedly much higher. But we don’t know because we don’t have enough tests. Why don’t we have enough tests? Remember back when Trump turned down the tests from the W.H.O. and prevented our own universities from developing them? Remember back when Trump had cut the funding to the CDC?

Every time Mr. Trump goes on camera and blames the previous administration for the mess we are now in, I scream at the reporters from FOX, CNN and MSNBC - “Why aren’t you reporting the actual historical facts?!” How dare Trump try to blame Covid-19 on Obama. He has no one to blame but himself.

I hear Republican pundits try to put the blame on China. And they are correct - after all, the disease started there. And the Chinese government handled it poorly and dishonestly. So it’s fair to blame the government of China for the EXISTENCE of the Covid-19 virus. BUT THAT MISSES THE POINT. Obama didn’t blame Ebola on Guinea. He helped them stop it. Trump let the disease invade the U.S.

And he is still not doing all he could to save lives. He keeps talking about invoking The Defense Production Act, but hasn’t actually done so. He’s making the same mistake twice - waiting until it’s too late to take action.

Invoking that act would require factories with the right equipment and know-how to start producing life saving ventilators for our hospitals, protective masks and other gear for our front line health workers. And the plus is it would actually employ people to do so. UPDATE: he just invoked it, FINALLY, way late.

Them’s the facts. Take them as you will. I’ll go back to trying to find toilet paper on-line.

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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2020, 08:49:55 am »

Apples to Oranges comparison, no pun intended
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2020, 10:00:22 am »

Apples to Oranges comparison, no pun intended

agreed . .one of those was a leader and the other was a failed reality show host
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2020, 11:12:53 am »

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all Trump's fault, blah, blah, blah. Same old routine. He shuts down travel to China and is labeled a racist and xenophobe by the left. Now it's all his fault. The left has always been good at moving the goalposts. With Trump however, there are no goalposts anymore. They just steal them.

The depleted Stockpile of N95 Masks happened during the Obama years. He failed to restore them. So as the left used to say. This is what Obama Trump inherited from Bush Obama. Next they're going to blame the economy on Trump, if they haven't already started yet. I am 100% convinced that if Hillary or Biden was in office right now, that shit would be exactly the same as it isTODAY.
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2020, 11:34:17 am »

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all Trump's fault, blah, blah, blah. Same old routine. He shuts down travel to China and is labeled a racist and xenophobe by the left. Now it's all his fault. The left has always been good at moving the goalposts. With Trump however, there are no goalposts anymore. They just steal them.

The depleted Stockpile of N95 Masks happened during the Obama years. He failed to restore them. So as the left used to say. This is what Obama Trump inherited from Bush Obama. Next they're going to blame the economy on Trump, if they haven't already started yet. I am 100% convinced that if Hillary or Biden was in office right now, that shit would be exactly the same as it isTODAY.

I didn’t have a problem with him banning travel from China.  I did have a problem with him banning the travel of Chinese citizens.  E.g. someone who holds a chinese passport but had been living in Canada since in October.  As such person would be no more of a risk than a Canadian citizen. 

But the travel ban did little to nothing because of the failure to test.

It is demonstrably false to say Trump inhered this from Obama.  With 9/11 Bush had only been in office for less than a year and some of the intelligence personal he was relying on where still in place from Clinton.  Trump has been in office for over 3 years.  He did in fact inherit a pandemic response team — he fired them and didn’t replace them.  Nobody in Trump’s response team was appointed by Obama.   The only competent member of his team was appointed by Reagan. 

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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2020, 11:54:04 am »

I didn’t have a problem with him banning travel from China.  I did have a problem with him banning the travel of Chinese citizens.  E.g. someone who holds a chinese passport but had been living in Canada since in October.  As such person would be no more of a risk than a Canadian citizen. 

But the travel ban did little to nothing because of the failure to test.

It is demonstrably false to say Trump inhered this from Obama.  With 9/11 Bush had only been in office for less than a year and some of the intelligence personal he was relying on where still in place from Clinton.  Trump has been in office for over 3 years.  He did in fact inherit a pandemic response team — he fired them and didn’t replace them.  Nobody in Trump’s response team was appointed by Obama.   The only competent member of his team was appointed by Reagan. 


Yep, Trump essentially murdered everyone that dies from the CHINA VIRUS, LMFAO.
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2020, 11:59:32 am »

Yep, Trump essentially murdered everyone that dies from the CHINA VIRUS, LMFAO.

That is not what I said. Not even close to what I said.

But he is incompetent. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2020, 12:06:18 pm »

That is not what I said. Not even close to what I said.

But he is incompetent. 
So was Bush according to the left. So was Clinton and Obama according to the right. The way I see it, many people who disagree with their position or politics are prone to consider them incompetent. IMO, incompetent people don't become POTUS.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2020, 12:44:59 pm »

poor trump, he only had 3 years to replenish a stockpile of masks .. that's just asking too much of one guy .. when's he supposed to get his golf time and tweet on the shitter time in ?
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2020, 12:57:19 pm »

This whole thread is one big eye roll. 
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2020, 12:59:54 pm »

Facebook is my go-to spot for news and information that I know I can rely on. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2020, 01:16:31 pm »

This whole thread is one big eye roll. 
Winner winner, chicken dinner....
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2020, 01:17:52 pm »

Facebook is my go-to spot for news and information that I know I can rely on. 
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2020, 01:35:34 pm »

I am 100% convinced that if Hillary or Biden was in office right now, that shit would be exactly the same as it isTODAY.
So do you believe Hillary also would have disbanded the pandemic response team, or do you believe such a team makes no difference whatsoever?
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2020, 01:52:06 pm »

So do you believe Hillary also would have disbanded the pandemic response team, or do you believe such a team makes no difference whatsoever?
That's a loaded fucking question. Cocked and locked baby. As I said, if Hillary or Biden was in office right now, this shit would be exactly the same.

Tit for tat. How about, do you think if Obama would have restocked the stockpile of N95 Masks that were depleted on his watch that we would have a shortage right now or "What difference, at this point, does it make?"
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