If available, would you trade for Deshaun Watson?

[MaineDolFan]

Rumor has it, Watson wants out of Houston.  The price would be steep, like Tua, the #3 pick, and more. 

What would you rather have on this team, long term, moving forward (if possible):
Tua, or Watson?

[Pappy13]

Not interested. Don't think Watson is worth a draft pick let alone giving up on Tua as well.

[Dave Gray]

Nope

[Tenshot13]

Watson can stay in Houston, thanks.

[fyo]

Before this season I would have said no way, but I think he played very well this season and without DeAndre Hopkins to boot.

I wouldn't give up Tua and the #3 pick, though. That's basically two high first round picks. That's too rich, IMHO.

[EDGECRUSHER]

The contract and draft picks would make this too steep of a price but Watson is great. He played hard all year and even went out there Week 17 while banged up and threw for 365 yards on a 4 win team. He is an elite QB so hopefully he stays out of the AFC East.

[Pappy13]

He's also been around a bit and banged up a bit. I'll take my chances with Tua especially since we don't have to give up anything and he's still on a rookie contract. I'm far from convinced about Tua but on the other hand he did about what I expected from him in his rookie year so I'm actually not down on him either like some seem to be. I think most of them had much higher expectations then I did.

[ArtieChokePhin]

 

Rumor has it, Watson wants out of Houston.  The price would be steep, like Tua, the #3 pick, and more. 

What would you rather have on this team, long term, moving forward (if possible):
Tua, or Watson?

I would consider it if the price was right.  Keep in mind that Houston is going into a total rebuild mode, so they are not negotiating from a position of strength.  No way they get Tua and the #3 pick.   Not with that contract.

[ArtieChokePhin]

Word is, the Texans are asking for 3 firsts and 3 seconds.  They are out of their minds

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

He is untradeable as it would involve a $67 million dollar cap hit.   

[EDGECRUSHER]

Word is, the Texans are asking for 3 firsts and 3 seconds.  They are out of their minds

That's the problem with the Texans, they have no idea about anyone's trade value because Bill O'Brien was a complete idiot. Their only shot at getting that price is trading to a team wHO hired Bill O'Brien to be their GM.

[Spider-Dan]

Let's suppose that Mahomes wanted out of KC.  Would 3 firsts and 3 seconds be a fair ask?
What about if Rodgers wanted out of GB?

I know no one wants to talk about what WSH paid for RG3 because Dan Snyder is crazy.  So let's remember that Jared Goff (plus a fourth and a sixth) was traded for 2 firsts, 2 seconds, and 2 thirds.

Deshaun Watson today is a LOT better than Jared Goff was coming out of college.

[EDGECRUSHER]

The issue with the Goff trade is that it was incredibly stupid at the time and worse now. Watson and Mahomes are a million times better than Goff but no one is worth no draft picks for 2 years. Even O'Brien wouldn't do that trade.

[Spider-Dan]

Are you saying that even Mahomes isn't worth 3 firsts and 3 seconds?   Because the flipside of what you are saying is that if someone offers a GM 3 firsts and 3 seconds for a player - no matter who that player is - that GM should always take it, as they are necessarily coming out ahead in that deal.

I mean, suppose we could go back in time to the 2000 or 2005 draft, with all GMs knowing what Brady or Rodgers will do.  What you're essentially saying is that if someone offered CLE or SF 3 firsts and 3 seconds for Brady or Rodgers, those teams should accept those trades.

I don't think draft picks are as valuable as you imply.  Look at the last 10 years of MIA first- and second-round picks, and tell me how many of them would have been worth giving up to have Mahomes or Watson on this team right now.

P.S. It is also worth mentioning that only 3 years after the incredibly stupid trade that left their cupboard bare of high-value draft picks, the Rams were tied for the best record in the league and made it to the Super Bowl.  Doesn't seem like they were hamstrung very much by that trade!

[EDGECRUSHER]

It depends on where you pick and how close you are to a championship. Cap space too is a factor. In general, if you lose your 1st and 2nd rounder for 3 years, you are on your way down. However, if you are an 11 win team with a crap QB, Mahomes can get you a championship or two.....before you start to go down the standings because you have no draft picks and your cap space is non existent since you have no cheap talent.

It's basically a Bill O'Brien move. You risk it all for short term glory, it's up to you whether you think it's worth it or not. I don't but I admit if we win 11 games next year while Tua plays like trash, I wouldn't be screaming if we made that trade since we are close to a championship.