If available, would you trade for Deshaun Watson?

[ArtieChokePhin]

According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Watson has officially requsted a trade. Not a surprise based off of the moves they have done recently to piss him off and disrespect him.

Now, we see how much he wants out of Houston and how much he wants to win. There are only a few legit suitors for him in terms of winning teams with cap space and draft capital. If he is willing to go to another joke franchise like the Jets then all bets are off and we shouldn't even bother bidding.

The Texans front office has stated on the record that they don't want to trade him and want to repair their relationship with him.  But it might be too late.   He might be so far gone that he might not give it his best on the field on purpose. 

[EDGECRUSHER]

The Texans front office has stated on the record that they don't want to trade him and want to repair their relationship with him.  But it might be too late.   He might be so far gone that he might not give it his best on the field on purpose. 

Yeah, they say that and then they hire a GM and Head Coach without talking to him after promising they would. They didn't even interview the qualified candidate for HC that he recommended. He is the face of your franchise, by far your best player and a Top 5 QB in the league. You don't have to bow down to him but after screwing up your franchise with terrible decisions and more losing seasons ahead are guaranteed, you shouldn't do everything you can to piss him off.

No matter what happens, the Texans will have losing records for at least the next 2 seasons so it's up to DeShaun if he is okay with that. You only got so many years in this league due to injuries, does he want to be near 30 before he sees the playoffs again?

Come to Miami, bring JJ Watt with you.

[ArtieChokePhin]

I've been thinking of ways to get Watson into a Dolphins uniform and no matter what I do, I keep coming back to offering the Texans Tua plus the 18th and 35th picks in the draft.  Here's my trade hopes:

Dolphins send Tua and picks 18 and 35 to Houston for Watson

Dolphins swap first round picks with Cincy and receive the Bengals 2nd rounder (pick 37) and a late round pick.

Cincy drafts Sewell at #3.  

Dolphins draft Devonta Smith or Jamar Chase at #5 and Bama OT Alex Leatherwood at #37.

[Sunstroke]

I've been thinking of ways to get Watson into a Dolphins uniform and no matter what I do, I keep coming back to offering the Texans Tua plus the 18th and 35th picks in the draft.  Here's my trade hopes:

Dolphins send Tua and picks 18 and 35 to Houston for Watson

Dolphins swap first round picks with Cincy and receive the Bengals 2nd rounder (pick 37) and a late round pick.

Cincy drafts Sewell at #3.  

Dolphins draft Devonta Smith or Jamar Chase at #5 and Bama OT Alex Leatherwood at #37.

Cinci wants Sewell in the worst way...I think we could get #5, #38 and #69 for #3.

Aside from that I like that trade. You get Watson, then you take Devonta Smith at #5. With the two 2nd rounders still in pocket, Miami grabs an OT (Sam Cosmi, Leatherwood or Walker Little) and, if possible, Najee Harris to be Miami's lead RB.

Depending on how desperate Houston gets to make the deal, I might try to get them to accept Miami's later 2nd rounder (#50) instead of #36 in that package...

[Sunstroke]

Come to Miami, bring JJ Watt with you.

I'd prefer to have JJ's younger brother TJ, but TJ doesn't play for a completely moronic franchise, so no chance of getting him for a half-eaten happy meal.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Cinci wants Sewell in the worst way...I think we could get #5, #38 and #69 for #3.

Aside from that I like that trade. You get Watson, then you take Devonta Smith at #5. With the two 2nd rounders still in pocket, Miami grabs an OT (Sam Cosmi, Leatherwood or Walker Little) and, if possible, Najee Harris to be Miami's lead RB.

Depending on how desperate Houston gets to make the deal, I might try to get them to accept Miami's later 2nd rounder (#50) instead of #36 in that package...

It's more than just Cincy's desire for Sewell, it's a bunch of other team's desire for a QB at #3. It really is the most valuable pick in the draft because it's the highest pick that can be traded since the Jags and Jets are set in stone and taking QBs despite whatever nonsense you hear from the media. We have several trading partners in the Top 10 alone for teams who need QBs, we can move back to 8th and get a boatload of picks and still drfat one of the 3 best WRs.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I'd prefer to have JJ's younger brother TJ, but TJ doesn't play for a completely moronic franchise, so no chance of getting him for a half-eaten happy meal.

I hear you on that but if they trade DeShaun then the rebuild is on and they will cut Watt for salary cap reasons and probably his own desires to play for a winner. We would be a perfect landing spot for him, he can still play and is a great teammate and mentor for our young guys. It's a perfect match.

[Sunstroke]

^^^ Can't argue with that...even an older JJ Watt could be an excellent asset for the defense.

[masterfins]

Sorry, but I don't want Watson on the Dolphins.  The Dolphins will have to give up too much, and I don't want a QB that wants to drive the bus and make demands about who the GM and Coach will be.  The Texans never should have commented to him that he would have a say in the matter to begin with.

Not to mention I don't understand the rush to give up on Tua after 9 games, when so many on here were begging to be able to draft him only a year ago.  In 9 games Tua did exactly want the coaches wanted him to do; went 6-3, 11 TD's 5 Int's, 1814 passing yards, and a 64 % completion ratio (186/290).  BTW what did Watson do his first season? Played in 7 games, going 3-3, 19 TD's 8 Int's, 1699 passing yds, and a 62% completion ratio (126/204).  Not all that much different than Tua.

[Spider-Dan]

I think the idea of MIA getting Watson without having to return Houston's own #3 pick is a pipe dream, and many of you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

I am significantly more interested in this trade than I would have been last offseason, because at this point I am unconvinced that Flores will be able to develop Tua into a franchise QB.  If MIA does trade for Watson, I feel confident that Flores will no longer be pulling this "bench the QB after 3 bad quarters" nonsense, and if he does, he will be ridden out of town on a rail.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Sorry, but I don't want Watson on the Dolphins.  The Dolphins will have to give up too much, and I don't want a QB that wants to drive the bus and make demands about who the GM and Coach will be.  The Texans never should have commented to him that he would have a say in the matter to begin with.

Not to mention I don't understand the rush to give up on Tua after 9 games, when so many on here were begging to be able to draft him only a year ago.  In 9 games Tua did exactly want the coaches wanted him to do; went 6-3, 11 TD's 5 Int's, 1814 passing yards, and a 64 % completion ratio (186/290).  BTW what did Watson do his first season? Played in 7 games, going 3-3, 19 TD's 8 Int's, 1699 passing yds, and a 62% completion ratio (126/204).  Not all that much different than Tua.

It's not that black and white. He never demanded he have a say over who the coach and GM will be, but any smart franchise consults with their star QB over a new head coach. They never give them final say but it's smart business to hear the player out. They PROMISED Watson he would be involved in the hiring of a new HC and GM. He didn't need to be involve din the GM so that was a stupid promise but it's okay because they broke both promises anyway. Deshaun recommended a qualified candidate for HC and they didn't even interview him but they interviewed Josh McCown and hired a terrible candidate instead.

As far as Tua goes, I will not be disappointed if he is our Week 1 starter, but there is no comparison right now between the two. Watson is an MVP player right now whereas Tua can develop into one. If you want to win a Superbowl in the next year or two, Watson is the better guy for that, but Tua can as well.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I think the idea of MIA getting Watson without having to return Houston's own #3 pick is a pipe dream, and many of you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

I am significantly more interested in this trade than I would have been last offseason, because at this point I am unconvinced that Flores will be able to develop Tua into a franchise QB.  If MIA does trade for Watson, I feel confident that Flores will no longer be pulling this "bench the QB after 3 bad quarters" nonsense, and if he does, he will be ridden out of town on a rail.

You're probably right, but Tua was the 5th overall pick in 2020 and still has lots of value, so I don't think the team wants to offer Tua, the 3rd pick and 4 other 1st rounders when there may not be that many suitors. The media leaks about the Jets are nonsense, he is not going to a 2 win team with no talent, no draft picks and bad ownership. He is literally in that position right now, why go even worse?

I think it's possible Deshaun is traded for below market value but it's still going to cost. I just feel that Tua and the #3 pick is definitely more valuable than The Jets at #2 and #23. Darnold is trash, they'll throw him into the trade offer but they couldn't even get a 5th rounder for him right now if they tried. Tua would go for a 1st if he was available.

[CF DolFan]

FWIW ... Peter King said this morning that Watson would start for Houston next year. Thursday, April 29 is draft day so it has to happen prior to that.

 

[Spider-Dan]

HOU has had some of the most pathetic and incompetent management over the last few years, and they appear to only be getting worse.  Watson is 100% justified in wanting to leave.

[Spider-Dan]

I think it's possible Deshaun is traded for below market value but it's still going to cost. I just feel that Tua and the #3 pick is definitely more valuable than The Jets at #2 and #23.

I think that under the circumstances, Watson should go for something like 1 known 2021 first and 3 future firsts.  I think MIA would be able to get him with Tua + #3 + #18.