If available, would you trade for Deshaun Watson?

[CF DolFan]

I feel so fortunate that Miami did not trade for him. We've suffered enough bad press in the last 20 years to last a lifetime.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Buzbee (the attorney) said the women who have filed suits didn't previously know each other. If true i doesn't sound like one place is getting the mob together.

Possible, but if they are all employees from the same spot then it would be very easy to get them together and say "sign this document and we'll get you $10,000 when it's over". My job has dealt with 3 class action lawsuits like this in the past and we found out through word of mouth that is what the lawyers said to ex employees. My job is owned by shitty people but we were innocent of these lawsuits.

Still hard to believe that they let a sexual harasser/rapist into their establishment this many times. Not just that, but this means Watson is a serial rapist who would never see the sunshine again if convicted. It's a lot to absorb and believe at this stage in the game without evidence. I would be very interested to see if they recorded any of this.

[EDGECRUSHER]

The latest one was a traveling masseuse and said the incident happened in California. The NFL is investigating but there has to be some sort of evidence other than claims. Text messages? Video? Bank records that show he used these places on the dates noted? Otherwise nothing can be proven. Even with bank records it just shows that he was there, not that any wrongdoing occured.

[EDGECRUSHER]

So, I guess this officially ends the DeShaun Watson trade talk. I don't think he is going anywhere now, especially with the legal issues.

[ArtieChokePhin]

Reports are coming out of Watson deleting Instagram posts and trying to contact the victim's lawyers to settle these cases.  The media has gotten a hold of one therapist and printed her story. 

I think Watson's goose is cooked. 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/03/29/first-hand-story-of-deshaun-watson-inappropriate-behavior-not-in-lawsuit

[Pappy13]

One more link for you. I think he makes a lot of sense. Come August things could look a whole lot different then they do right now and Houston may be willing to trade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeYt12eicxY

[ArtieChokePhin]

One more link for you. I think he makes a lot of sense. Come August things could look a whole lot different then they do right now and Houston may be willing to trade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeYt12eicxY

I don't think you're understanding the gravity of this situation.  More than twenty women are accusing him!!!  At this point there is almost no fathomable chance that this is a setup or a shakedown. There's entirely too many accusers from all over the place to be a coincidence!!!   I don't see him playing in 2021.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I don't think you're understanding the gravity of this situation.  More than twenty women are accusing him!!!  At this point there is almost no fathomable chance that this is a setup or a shakedown. There's entirely too many accusers from all over the place to be a coincidence!!!   I don't see him playing in 2021.

That's not true, once a lawyer wants a class action against you, it's quite easy to get people to join once you show them a dollar amount. Testifying on a witness stand is quite another story but initially filing a lawsuit is very easy.

Not saying he is innocent or guilty, but there could be another 50 lawsuits filed and it won't change anything until actual evidence is shown.

[Downunder Dolphan]

One more link for you. I think he makes a lot of sense. Come August things could look a whole lot different then they do right now and Houston may be willing to trade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeYt12eicxY

Who cares if Houston is willing to trade? This is a slow motion train wreck that to date we have been smart to avoid.... and an expensive one we should continue to avoid!

[Pappy13]

I don't think you're understanding the gravity of this situation.  More than twenty women are accusing him!!!  At this point there is almost no fathomable chance that this is a setup or a shakedown. There's entirely too many accusers from all over the place to be a coincidence!!!   I don't see him playing in 2021.

Do you see him not playing in 2021 because he's suspended by the league, because he's holding out or because he's in jail? I can see him possibly being suspended, but maybe it's only a game or 2 and if that's the case I could still see him being traded. He can always challenge the suspension and possibly stall it long enough to get the suspension moved to 2022 and still play in 2021. As far as holding out, that's a possibility but only if he's still on the Texans. I don't see jail time coming. He'll settle with these women. It's the smart thing to do and if that happens there may not be any suspension or a very light one a game or 2 like I said. So in any of those scenario's I still think there's a good chance he's traded. Not necessarily to the Dolphins but someone is going to make a play for him. He's too good not to play football in 2021.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Do you see him not playing in 2021 because he's suspended by the league, because he's holding out or because he's in jail? I can see him possibly being suspended, but maybe it's only a game or 2 and if that's the case I could still see him being traded. He can always challenge the suspension and possibly stall it long enough to get the suspension moved to 2022 and still play in 2021. As far as holding out, that's a possibility but only if he's still on the Texans. I don't see jail time coming. He'll settle with these women. It's the smart thing to do and if that happens there may not be any suspension or a very light one a game or 2 like I said. So in any of those scenario's I still think there's a good chance he's traded. Not necessarily to the Dolphins but someone is going to make a play for him. He's too good not to play football in 2021.

He will only be suspended with some type of evidence or admission of wrongdoing. The NFL suspends players after they are arrested and "charges get dropped" which is just code for "I bought them off". If Watson denies this the whole way and there is no real evidence against him, he can't be suspended. Even the pathetic NFLPA won't stand for that.

I will say that this makes him unlikely to hold out now because that is just going to draw more attention onto him and he probably just wants to play football now.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I also have to mention that if what is being reported is true, then DeShaun or his attorney are not bright. Deleting Instagram messages isn't a crime because he hasn't been charged with anything yet, but it looks bad. Contacting women directly about "settling" is also bad unless he gets them to swear under oath that this was all a scam and the lawyer wanted them to lie. Not saying it is, but when you have 20+ women accusing you of things by one attorney, settling with only a handful out of court doesn't solve your problems.

[ArtieChokePhin]

I also have to mention that if what is being reported is true, then DeShaun or his attorney are not bright. Deleting Instagram messages isn't a crime because he hasn't been charged with anything yet, but it looks bad. Contacting women directly about "settling" is also bad unless he gets them to swear under oath that this was all a scam and the lawyer wanted them to lie. Not saying it is, but when you have 20+ women accusing you of things by one attorney, settling with only a handful out of court doesn't solve your problems.

Watson said publicly that he would fight this to the end to clear his name.  If he settles with these women, it's going to look like his statement is 100% horseshit.

[Pappy13]

Watson said publicly that he would fight this to the end to clear his name.  If he settles with these women, it's going to look like his statement is 100% horseshit.

That's what he said when there were 3 women accusing him. Things have changed. Besides it already looks like his statement is 100% horseshit so there's that. LOL

[Spider-Dan]

I don't think you're understanding the gravity of this situation.  More than twenty women are accusing him!!!  At this point there is almost no fathomable chance that this is a setup or a shakedown. There's entirely too many accusers from all over the place to be a coincidence!!!   I don't see him playing in 2021.

The linked video says that the Dolphins have set themselves up to be ready to trade for Watson if/when these accusations are resolved.  They have enough draft capital in 2022/2023 to still be able to make a deal at the end of the summer.

With the specific disclaimer that I'm not excusing Watson for any actions he may have taken, it seems pretty strange that these allegations come out as he's playing hardball with the Texans.  I'm not saying that Cal McNair paid these women to lie, but maybe he was keeping a lot of these women silent and decided to stop doing so?  It reminds me of the scene with the senator from Godfather II.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULcJhIoLte4