If available, would you trade for Deshaun Watson?

[ArtieChokePhin]

Not a bad prediction if there is some merit to these claims, but I don't know how they can be proven without a confession or video evidence. Seems like Watson's best play if he is guilt is to keep denying everything.

As far as the cops go, let's see how the investigation unfolds. If none of the women want to speak with them, then it is just nonsense and a cash grab.

Keep in mind this is how the Aaron Hernandez situation started out.   Same with Bill Cosby.   

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Not a bad prediction if there is some merit to these claims, but I don't know how they can be proven without a confession or video evidence.

1 he says/she says - yeah you need more evidence.

20 people accusing him of the same thing is more than enough evidence.

[EDGECRUSHER]

1 he says/she says - yeah you need more evidence.

20 people accusing him of the same thing is more than enough evidence.

Not without proof, it is very easy to get people to sign on for what amounts to a class action lawsuit. Their requirements are basically to sign your name to whatever the lawyer says. IF they actually interview with police and look to press charges, then it means something. As is, the higher the number the less believable it becomes.

[Spider-Dan]

As is, the higher the number the less believable it becomes.

That's a weird way to judge things.
Did you think the charges against Bill Cosby were more believable when it was just one woman instead of 50?

[EDGECRUSHER]

That's a weird way to judge things.
Did you think the charges against Bill Cosby were more believable when it was just one woman instead of 50?

Like I said before, it is very easy to get people to join a class action suit or a ton of similar suits. They don't have to do much but let the lawyer speak. Once the cops get involved, most bow out because they just wanted some easy cash, not commit a crime for it. I imagine the same will happen now that Houston PD is investigating. The ones who keep going are either telling the truth or telling lies that can't be proven as lies so they are in the clear.

With all of that being said, if even half of these are true, then Watson is done in the NFL and might be facing serious jail time if they can prove it in court. Hopefully, they can.

[EDGECRUSHER]

2 of the 22 claimants have gone public today. Their names are out there but we don't really need to show them here. I imagine these women probably have some texts or messages showing that Watson contacted them about massages and perhaps more. Doesn't do them much good to come forward without any evidence unless they want to be D List Celebrities.

[ArtieChokePhin]

Nike has just announced they are suspending Watson's endorsement deals amid these allegations

[EDGECRUSHER]

Nike has just announced they are suspending Watson's endorsement deals amid these allegations

"These harassment claims are disturbing and has no part in our business model of using slave labor from a country committing genocide to make our overpriced shoes." - Nike

[CF DolFan]

Women are vilifying him so advertisers are taking notice. While it is to be seen how this will affect him legally ... the more these “victims” speak out the worse it will be for him publicly. I heard the Feds are involved now as he brought in women across state lines for his sexual massages.

[Dolphster]

If I were a celebrity/pro athlete/etc., I don't think I would ever leave my house.  Not a life that I would want at all. 

[EDGECRUSHER]

Women are vilifying him so advertisers are taking notice. While it is to be seen how this will affect him legally ... the more these “victims” speak out the worse it will be for him publicly. I heard the Feds are involved now as he brought in women across state lines for his sexual massages.

Yeah, women coming forward was a game changer because you put yourself out there and your past and if you are a scam artist looking for a buck, you will be found out. At the end of the day, I still think he was just being a creep who thought he was getting a hooker and when he realized he was not, tried to offer cash and expose himself to make it happen.

Not model behavior but not criminal. If he did worse than that, lock him up. Innocent until proven guilty but if he is guilty of more than that then screw him and enjoy prison.

[Pappy13]

Yeah, women coming forward was a game changer because you put yourself out there and your past and if you are a scam artist looking for a buck, you will be found out. At the end of the day, I still think he was just being a creep who thought he was getting a hooker and when he realized he was not, tried to offer cash and expose himself to make it happen.

Not model behavior but not criminal. If he did worse than that, lock him up. Innocent until proven guilty but if he is guilty of more than that then screw him and enjoy prison.

I could excuse this type of behavior if it happened once or twice. He made it his standard operating procedure. He has enough money, if you want a hooker, hire one. Obviously this goes way beyond wanting a hooker. I can't excuse this type of behaviour.

Having said that I don't put athletes on a pedestal. I don't really give a shit if a guy is a creep, sex addict, or even morally reprehensible if he can help my team win. I'd prefer that all athletes just shut the hell up and play and we kept their personal lives out of the newspaper, but that's not the society we live in so I recognize that teams can't afford to have guys like this on their team and I respect that.

I don't own sports memorabelia from players. I do own a Dan Marino jersey but it's just a jersey with his name on the back, not signed by him. I also have his book My life in Football, but it was given to me as a gift, I did not purchase it nor would I have. I don't believe in making athletes into heroes. They get paid to play a game. I root them on as I root on my team, but I have no illusions about the player as a person. I don't care who they are or what they do, I don't root them on as a person, I only care if they can help my team(s) win. That may be cynical and probably is, but that's what I think so honestly unless Watson can't play football next year, I would still like to see him on the Dolphins. I don't think that's going to happen anymore, but I wouldn't have a problem with it if it did.

[Phishfan]

You can't excuse his behavior but don't care what he does?  Kind of a 180.

[Pappy13]

You can't excuse his behavior but don't care what he does?  Kind of a 180.

I'm saying that I think Deshaun Watson the person is morally reprehensible at best and might be a criminal at worst and deserves whatever is coming to him, but I'd still like to have him as the Dolphins QB in 2021 if that was possible. Does that make sense? If not, well that's just me. I don't typically think like most people do.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I'm saying that I think he's morally reprehensible at the best and might be a criminal at the worst and deserves whatever is coming to him, but I'd still like to have him as the Dolphins QB in 2021 if that was possible. Does that make sense? If not, well that's just me. I don't typically think like most people do.

I don't think he will be anyone's QB in 2021 because he may have left a paper trail and if this very wealthy and famous man was seriously hiring hookers through Instagram, then he is a total degenerate that probably left a paper trail of other things. You're incredibly wealthy and are basically a God in Houston, why are you going to hookers and why are you doing it yourself instead of through your agent?

At the end of the day, bet the Texans wish they traded him now. Tua, the 3rd and 18th picks? Would've erased the O'Brien failure and made us into clowns. Now? Franchise is worse than ever. Maybe we should offer them our 18th pick for future draft picks?