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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2021, 02:15:36 pm »

Tax-payer funded stadiums are a tough situation.

On one hand, I don't like when cities give what are essentially tax breaks to pay for private companies, sports or not.

But what sucks is that if you don't do it, some other city will do it to encourage the influx of money from having the team or business. 

You really would need some understanding or law at a larger level that you can't give money to stuff like that even if a city wants to.
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2021, 02:49:39 pm »

Derek Jeter and Don Mattingly are Yankee plants in the Marlins organization.  Their job is to turn the Marlins into the Yankees personal farm club.

I don't know if they are plants but I'm sure Jeter didn't mind helping his old team out with the Giancarlo Stanton salary dump trade. Looking back on it now, don't know if the Yankees won that trade seeing as how Stanton gets hurt with a light breeze.
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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2021, 07:05:37 pm »

Tax-payer funded stadiums are a tough situation.

On one hand, I don't like when cities give what are essentially tax breaks to pay for private companies, sports or not.

But what sucks is that if you don't do it, some other city will do it to encourage the influx of money from having the team or business. 

You really would need some understanding or law at a larger level that you can't give money to stuff like that even if a city wants to.

There really should be a Partnership between Government and the Cities when building the Stadiums; and a fair agreement where the city/state doesn't get hosed.
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2021, 07:13:38 pm »

The franchise tag is terrible but being able to use it multiple times is an absolute travesty.


I do agree that the franchise tag shouldn't be used multiple times on the same player, but overall the franchise tag is a good thing.  It's limited to one player per team, and the player being tagged gets top dollar for a year based on the highest paid players in their position.  It adds player stability to your favorite team, and keeps a player from demanding an outrageous contract, possibly based on an out of the ordinary spectacular prior season.

The obvious downside is the player getting severely injured, whereby he would lose tentative guaranteed money on a multi-year contract.  But the positive is salaries will increase and he could get an even bigger payday when he signs a longer term deal the following year.

So IMO the tag should be changed in the future to limit it's use, and perhaps force something like a 50% guarantee of money for the following season in the event the player is hurt or cut following the franchise tag year.
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2021, 09:54:06 pm »

I do agree that the franchise tag shouldn't be used multiple times on the same player, but overall the franchise tag is a good thing.  It's limited to one player per team, and the player being tagged gets top dollar for a year based on the highest paid players in their position.  It adds player stability to your favorite team, and keeps a player from demanding an outrageous contract, possibly based on an out of the ordinary spectacular prior season.

The obvious downside is the player getting severely injured, whereby he would lose tentative guaranteed money on a multi-year contract.  But the positive is salaries will increase and he could get an even bigger payday when he signs a longer term deal the following year.

So IMO the tag should be changed in the future to limit it's use, and perhaps force something like a 50% guarantee of money for the following season in the event the player is hurt or cut following the franchise tag year.

To address both your points, here's what should be in the new CBA.   Regarding the franchise tag, you can only use it on a player one time.  If you can't get a deal done with that player after that extra year, he is a free agent.   You should also be allowed to use the transition tag, which basically makes a UFA an RFA for that year.

And for severe injuries, all NFL contracts should include insurance paid for by the team that would pay a player X amount of dollars if said player suffers a career ending injury.
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2021, 01:43:59 am »

I do agree that the franchise tag shouldn't be used multiple times on the same player, but overall the franchise tag is a good thing.  It's limited to one player per team, and the player being tagged gets top dollar for a year based on the highest paid players in their position.  It adds player stability to your favorite team, and keeps a player from demanding an outrageous contract, possibly based on an out of the ordinary spectacular prior season.
Obviously franchise tags are great for the team.  For the players, they're terrible.  NFL careers are much shorter than other leagues, and playing even 1 year under the tag can be a significant chunk of your career.

Players have a very limited time to sign a big contract, and franchise tags reduce that window.
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2021, 09:34:45 am »

Obviously franchise tags are great for the team.  For the players, they're terrible.  NFL careers are much shorter than other leagues, and playing even 1 year under the tag can be a significant chunk of your career.

Players have a very limited time to sign a big contract, and franchise tags reduce that window.
But the contract they get isn't THAT bad. If it's just 1 year it's not a bad deal at all. Ask Dak what he thinks about the franchise tag. In my opinion he basically just got another year added to the deal he just signed. Not a bad deal at all in my opinion.
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2021, 09:47:18 am »

There really should be a Partnership between Government and the Cities when building the Stadiums; and a fair agreement where the city/state doesn't get hosed.

There's gotta be something.

We have a taxpayer funded baseball stadium in a really shitty location.   It's like the worst of both worlds.
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2021, 09:54:13 am »

There's gotta be something.

We have a taxpayer funded baseball stadium in a really shitty location.   It's like the worst of both worlds.

If you involve the Government with the ability to use taxpayer money and the Owners with their desire to use taxpayer money and not their own, there is nothing that can be done other than guillotines for them both. I don't really have a non-guillotine solution but I do know that asking either party to do the right thing is ill advised.
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