The George Floyd Murder Trial Started

[Fau Teixeira]

So not complying with a police order is a capital offense that gets the death penalty.. do you guys even think before you type?

[Dave Gray]

This right here.  Be cool with the police and do what they say, and they will be cool with you. 

This is blatantly false.  I'm a white dude living in a nice neighborhood and I had a maniac cop in an unmarked car pull a gun and point it at me, while screaming, because he thought I stole my own car.  It was some weird circumstances.  He thought we were tattooed gang members and was talking to me about life on the street.  I was 130 pounds and 18 years old.  When he saw my license, he said "Oh....we get to take YOU to the BIG JAIL!"

I mean...I can't even believe you'd make that statement.  There are 100 years of cops doing fucked up shit off-camera.  Remember how many black dudes died because they were high on PCP and needed 6 cops to beat them into restraint?

You shouldn't fight or evade police...obviously.  But this stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum.  There's a century of distrust, lying, and covering for each other to avoid accountability.  Now that we have this stuff on camera, for all to see, we're left with blaming the victim.

[pondwater]

So not complying with a police order is a capital offense that gets the death penalty.. do you guys even think before you type?

It's not that simple and you know it. If a criminal chooses to resist arrest with 3 armed police officers there. And then jumps in the drivers seat. What is he doing in there? Is he getting a cigarette? Calling Domino's to order a pizza? Going for a gun or knife? As a officer the only thing they knew was that you have a violent criminal resisting arrest, fighting, and going into his car.

Now put yourself in the cop's shoes. Once this scumbag jumps into his car are you concerned for your life or the life of your co-workers? Even if she pulled the taser instead her service weapon, if that scumbag pulled out a gun you would have a dead cop. So no it's not a death penalty.  At the point he starts fighting with the police I consider it a self defense situation. There's a reason they tell you to put your hands on the steering wheel and not make any sudden movements when you get pulled over.

I will agree that there are some issues with law enforcement that need to be addressed. However, and this goes for anyone including me, once you start resisting arrest and fighting with law enforcement there's a substantially increased chance that it will end in your death. If I ever do what Daunte Wright did, I give my 100% permission for you to shoot me, because at that point I already know how it's going to turn out, jail or dead. Likewise, If I was the cop, I would have 100% shot Daunte Wright. One thing these idiot criminals don't seem to understand is that once it's been decided that you're going to be arrested. You are going to be arrested on way or the other. 

This is blatantly false.  I'm a white dude living in a nice neighborhood and I had a maniac cop in an unmarked car pull a gun and point it at me, while screaming, because he thought I stole my own car.  It was some weird circumstances.  He thought we were tattooed gang members and was talking to me about life on the street.  I was 130 pounds and 18 years old.  When he saw my license, he said "Oh....we get to take YOU to the BIG JAIL!"

I mean...I can't even believe you'd make that statement.  There are 100 years of cops doing fucked up shit off-camera.  Remember how many black dudes died because they were high on PCP and needed 6 cops to beat them into restraint?

You shouldn't fight or evade police...obviously.  But this stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum.  There's a century of distrust, lying, and covering for each other to avoid accountability.  Now that we have this stuff on camera, for all to see, we're left with blaming the victim.

Are you alive? Did you comply?

How is Daunte Wright a victim? He was a criminal that choose to resist arrest, assault law enforcement, and jump into his car.

He's a victim of his own stupidity and ignorance. Like the song says, "I fought the law and the law won". You can't have it both ways, either you want the violent criminals off the street, which sometimes means violent interactions and/or death. Or you want to leave them roaming around like packs of wild animals. And in that case, you anti gun liberals don't stand a chance. These officers tried to peacefully take him into custody and he escalated the situation to his own determent. Good for him, he won the dummy of the day award and paid for it with his life.

Not to mention his idiot Aunt on national media coverage saying that "she murdered my nephew", "Every pistol has a safety on it", "she saw that she had to release the safety".

First of all, this is in NO way murder. Second of all, after reviewing the video, the officer was carrying a Glock which doesn't have an active safety to release. And third, she in no way even acknowledged that her nephew was a criminal or in the process of committing a crime when he was killed. Why won't she address why he was too stupid and/or too violent to just deal with it in court? She has no credibility whatsoever, just a sympathy play. Her kneejerk media circus is no different than Daunte Wright’s kneejerk reaction to being arrested.

[Dave Gray]

Daunte Wright is a different situation than George Floyd.

[dolphins4life]

Chauvin did not take the stand.

[dolphins4life]

Closing arguments will be Monday.  Thing is, if he is acquitted, he can retire on his pension

[pondwater]

Daunte Wright is a different situation than George Floyd.

Yes, but it's the same old leftist propaganda. White cop kills innocent black person just because they were black. But the circumstances and fact are swept under the rug and twisted by the liberals.

So even though the situations are different. They all involve criminals resisting arrest and assaulting law enforcement. Remember Michael Brown and "Hands up, don't shoot". It was proven to be a lie. Michael Brown, George Floyd, and Daunte Wright all have one thing in common. Their own actions and choices directly let to their own death. It's not rocket science. Do as instructed, let them cuff you, put you in the car, and go to jail. Or stupidly fight with police and lose your life. All three of those idiots would probably be alive today if they didn't make the choices they made.

So I guess that the asshole cop you ran across didn't kill you because you made the correct choice. I mean there are only two choices. How stupid does a person have to be to get it wrong?

[Dave Gray]

We just approach these things differently.

Floyd was murdered in custody, in my opinion.
Wright was accidentally killed by a police officer.

I don't know every single detail, but from what I understand, Floyd's killer should be put in jail.  Wright's killer shouldn't even be charged.

It doesn't matter what you did prior to your capture.  Once you're in custody, your safety is the responsibility of the State.  Floyd didn't pose a threat, so kneeling on him while he's yelling "I can't breathe" for 9 minutes is excessive force.
Wright's killing is unfortuate, and a situation that he escalated.

There is a larger question of whether or not we should even have armed police pulling people over for traffic citations and air freshers.  You can make a case that that's more of a meter maid's job.  But either way, I don't think that's what this woman should be on trial for -- that entire broken system.

[Dave Gray]

How is Daunte Wright a victim?

I mean...he's literally a victim.

A police officer unintentionally shot him dead.  She was not authorized to use deadly force.  He had not been convicted of any crime or sentenced to death by anyone with authority.

You can be a criminal and a victim both.  If I rob a store, the cops don't just get to kill me for it.  They also don't get to kill me for resisting arrest.

[pondwater]

I mean...he's literally a victim.

A police officer unintentionally shot him dead.  She was not authorized to use deadly force.  He had not been convicted of any crime or sentenced to death by anyone with authority.

You can be a criminal and a victim both.  If I rob a store, the cops don't just get to kill me for it.  They also don't get to kill me for resisting arrest.

It wasn't a death sentence, it was self defense. It was a criminal that resisted arrest and fights with law enforcement and then jumps into his car.

If Dave is that officer what does he do? Who's to say he wasn't going for a weapon. Taser shouldn't even be in the conversation. Once he got back into the car all 3 officers should have drawn and discharged their weapons. At that point he was a threat to everyone involved.

I would love to see some of you go through a law enforcement simulation. Split second decisions in stressful situations aren't as easy as you people make it out to be. So Dave, what would you have done in that situation? Risk you or your coworkers life or blow the scumbag away?

[Dave Gray]

It wasn't a death sentence, it was self defense.

She fired her gun by accident.  She didn't mean to shoot him.

[Sunstroke]

Taser shouldn't even be in the conversation. Once he got back into the car all 3 officers should have drawn and discharged their weapons. At that point he was a threat to everyone involved.

Those words are equal parts psychotically evil and criminally stupid* things I have ever read on this board.

(* and I used to read all of D4L's posts.)

[dolphins4life]

Those words are equal parts psychotically evil and criminally stupid* things I have ever read on this board.

(* and I used to read all of D4L's posts.)

Don't get the reference here.  You seem to be implying that my posts are stupid.  The problem with that claim is that they are not. 

[dolphins4life]

If she didn't have a taser, would a firearm have been a justifiable option?  Him driving off hastily in the car IS a threat to the public.   

[dolphins4life]

Yes, but it's the same old leftist propaganda. White cop kills innocent black person just because they were black. But the circumstances and fact are swept under the rug and twisted by the liberals.

So even though the situations are different. They all involve criminals resisting arrest and assaulting law enforcement. Remember Michael Brown and "Hands up, don't shoot". It was proven to be a lie. Michael Brown, George Floyd, and Daunte Wright all have one thing in common. Their own actions and choices directly let to their own death. It's not rocket science. Do as instructed, let them cuff you, put you in the car, and go to jail. Or stupidly fight with police and lose your life. All three of those idiots would probably be alive today if they didn't make the choices they made.

So I guess that the asshole cop you ran across didn't kill you because you made the correct choice. I mean there are only two choices. How stupid does a person have to be to get it wrong?

What do you think of the Chicago guy, who complied with the police and got shot anyway?

Or that person in Texas who was shot in killed for the crime of living in an apartment?