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« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2021, 03:15:42 pm »

Would Nicole Brown Simpson be alive if she had not been dating another man?
Again, not sure why you want to spend so much energy blaming the victim of a murder.
Answering a question with a question? It was a simple yes or no.
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« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2021, 03:25:47 pm »

I'm not even sure why George Floyd is still being debated.  It was pretty simple, really.  Chauvin was found guilty of the exact charges that he should have been found guilty of.  Chauvin was the perpetrator and Floyd was the victim.  Having said that, it is also common sense that George Floyd would not have been killed if he had not been resisting arrest.  Before everyone starts hyperventilating, by no means am I saying that resisting arrest made it okay for him to be killed.  But as many times as George Floyd had been arrested (and it was a bunch of times), he should have known that nothing good ever comes out of resisting arrest.  AGAIN, I'm not excusing what Chauvin did.  Chauvin killed him, was arrested for it, and was found guilty of it.  Exactly as he should have been. 
Correct, I agree with you for the most part. I just want to see how many people place some accountability on Floyd for putting himself in that situation. His decisions directly led to his own death. Come on Spider, say it with me, "George Floyd's own decisions directly led to his own death."
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« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2021, 06:11:48 pm »

Answering a question with a question? It was a simple yes or no.
"Answering a question with a question"... with yet another question?  Seems like yes or no isn't that simple after all!

The sad irony of the situation is that you are once again shouting for a "yes or no!" answer to a clownishly-formatted question.  I mean, according to you he died of "an overdose," right?  So YOUR answer should be "No"!

My actual answer is "Maybe" because we don't know what else would have happened.  After all, Freddie Gray didn't resist arrest, and he was still killed in police custody anyway.
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« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2021, 06:14:16 pm »

You fixed nothing...you just used it as a misdirection ploy. Either that or you were just translating what I said into something I didn't say, which definitely qualifies you to be a Retrumplican.



Spider translates things I say into things I didn’t say all the time, and he is as liberal as you can get. 

Btw, you REALLY don’t like Trump, do you?
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« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2021, 08:37:00 pm »

"Answering a question with a question"... with yet another question?  Seems like yes or no isn't that simple after all!

The sad irony of the situation is that you are once again shouting for a "yes or no!" answer to a clownishly-formatted question.  I mean, according to you he died of "an overdose," right?  So YOUR answer should be "No"!

My actual answer is "Maybe" because we don't know what else would have happened.  After all, Freddie Gray didn't resist arrest, and he was still killed in police custody anyway.

That's what's wrong with most of you liberal extremists. You're never wrong. Hell, I can admit that Chauvin was wrong, but you can't even admit that George Floyd was somewhat culpable in his own death with his poor choices. This shit is laughable....
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« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2021, 08:27:30 am »

was he culpable in getting arrested .. sure .. was he culpable in getting killed .. no
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« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2021, 09:33:19 am »

was he culpable in getting arrested .. sure .. was he culpable in getting killed .. no

This...exactly.

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« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2021, 10:09:25 am »

was he culpable in getting arrested .. sure .. was he culpable in getting killed .. no

I think that is a fair statement.  I think I would probably say that Floyd made a very bad decision which  put the wheels in motion that ultimately led to him being killed, but I wouldn't go so far as to say he was "culpable" in getting killed.  Again, nothing good ever ever ever comes out of resisting arrest.  But resisting arrest shouldn't lead to death unless the officer(s) or innocent bystanders are in immediate danger of their own lives which does not seem to be the case with Floyd.  It was a truly shitty situation in which pretty much everyone involved did the wrong thing from beginning to end. 
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« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2021, 10:10:43 am »

If he didn't leave the house that day, he wouldn't have been in that position
If he didn't pass counterfeit money that day the police would have never been call to the location.
If he didn't resist arrest, he would have safely been transported to jail and released.
If he didn't get high on drugs that day, he may not have made so many stupid decisions that led him down the path to his own death.

If he would have made the correct decision just one time, he wouldn't have been killed by Chauvin. But every decision he made was wrong. Hell, he could have flipped a coin for each decision and came out better.

Let's see, tomorrow I'm going to get up. ------>  Do a multi drug cocktail ------> Leave the house and go pass counterfeit money ------> Then argue, fight, and non comply with the police when they show up. Yeah, what the fuck could go wrong with such a well planned out day?
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« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2021, 10:15:07 am »

If he didn't leave the house that day, he wouldn't have been in that position
If he didn't pass counterfeit money that day the police would have never been call to the location.
If he didn't resist arrest, he would have safely been transported to jail and released.
If he didn't get high on drugs that day, he may not have made so many stupid decisions that led him down the path to his own death.

If he would have made the correct decision just one time, he wouldn't have been killed by Chauvin. But every decision he made was wrong. Hell, he could have flipped a coin for each decision and came out better.

Let's see, tomorrow I'm going to get up. ------>  Do a multi drug cocktail ------> Leave the house and go pass counterfeit money ------> Then argue, fight, and non comply with the police when they show up. Yeah, what the fuck could go wrong with such a well planned out day?

From what I have seen in his prior arrest history, etc. I don't think his life was punctuated by smart decisions and intellectual prowess. 
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« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2021, 11:05:42 am »

From what I have seen in his prior arrest history, etc. I don't think his life was punctuated by smart decisions and intellectual prowess. 
The fuck you say? According to the "collective wokeness", he was a hero and upstanding citizen, haha 
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« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2021, 12:10:44 pm »

From what I have seen in his prior arrest history, etc. I don't think his life was punctuated by smart decisions and intellectual prowess.  

He had a prior arrest history??  Geez, that's the first time I'm hearing of this!  I don't think anyone knew that!  According to the media, George Floyd was a saint!  Roll Eyes

Same thing goes with the guy who was supposedly jogging through a neighborhood in Georgia while wearing boots and carrying a hammer, the guy who snatched a cop's taser and pointed it at him while running off, the girl who was stabbing someone else, and the guy who tried to take off when he was told he was being taken into custody because of outstanding arrest warrants.   NONE OF THESE PEOPLE are the heroes the media made them out to be!!!
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« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2021, 07:54:41 am »

you're right obviously .. USC 1.2.324423223 clearly says that if you run away, jog through a neighborhood carrying a hammer, just look a little darker than a sicilian, that warrants the death penalty
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« Reply #58 on: June 04, 2021, 08:01:44 am »

you're right obviously .. USC 1.2.324423223 clearly says that if you run away, jog through a neighborhood carrying a hammer, just look a little darker than a sicilian, that warrants the death penalty
No one is arguing that point. Did George Floyd make stupid decisions that led to his own death? It's really a simple question.
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« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2021, 12:30:02 pm »

you're right obviously .. USC 1.2.324423223 clearly says that if you run away, jog through a neighborhood carrying a hammer, just look a little darker than a sicilian, that warrants the death penalty

No one is arguing that point. Did George Floyd make stupid decisions that led to his own death? It's really a simple question.

Actually, I am.  Because no one goes for a jog wearing boots and carrying a hammer.  It's obvious what he was up to.  Not to mention he had a criminal past.
 While it doesn't justify him getting shot to death, let's not make him into a tragic hero or any kind of hero. 
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