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« on: June 02, 2021, 06:50:26 pm »

Ipsos/Reuters Poll: The Big Lie
Over half of Republicans believe Donald Trump is the actual President of the United States.


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Washington, DC, May 21, 2021 - Former President Donald Trump’s stronghold over the Republican party remains. His refusal to concede the 2020 election and calls of widespread fraud have raised doubts about the integrity of its results among his Republican base. Consequently, 56% of Republicans believe the election was rigged or the result of illegal voting, and 53% think Donald Trump is the actual President, not Joe Biden. Only 30% of Republicans feel confident that absentee or mail-in ballots were accurately counted, compared to 86% of Democrats and 55% of independents. As a result, 87% of Republicans believe it is important that the government place new limits on voting to protect elections from fraud. Finally, 63% percent of Republicans think Donald Trump should run for President again in 2024, compared to only 8% of Democrats and 23% of independents.


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The question itself is formatted as:

"Who do you think the true President is right now? Choose one."

Multiple choice with two answers, Donald Trump or Joe Biden.  25% of all respondents and 53% of Republicans said Trump.

This is why all the both-sides talk of "far right vs. far left" is absurd.  Find me a poll from mid-2016 where the majority of Democrats say they believe Hillary Clinton is the president "right now."  You can't, because the left-wing crazies haven't taken over the Democratic Party like they have the GOP.
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2021, 06:53:53 pm »

Ipsos/Reuters Poll: The Big Lie
Over half of Republicans believe Donald Trump is the actual President of the United States.


Topline Findings
Washington, DC, May 21, 2021 - Former President Donald Trump’s stronghold over the Republican party remains. His refusal to concede the 2020 election and calls of widespread fraud have raised doubts about the integrity of its results among his Republican base. Consequently, 56% of Republicans believe the election was rigged or the result of illegal voting, and 53% think Donald Trump is the actual President, not Joe Biden. Only 30% of Republicans feel confident that absentee or mail-in ballots were accurately counted, compared to 86% of Democrats and 55% of independents. As a result, 87% of Republicans believe it is important that the government place new limits on voting to protect elections from fraud. Finally, 63% percent of Republicans think Donald Trump should run for President again in 2024, compared to only 8% of Democrats and 23% of independents.


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The question itself is formatted as:

"Who do you think the true President is right now? Choose one."

Multiple choice with two answers, Donald Trump or Joe Biden.  25% of all respondents and 53% of Republicans said Trump.

This is why all the both-sides talk of "far right vs. far left" is absurd.  Find me a poll from mid-2016 where the majority of Democrats say they believe Hillary Clinton is the president "right now."  You can't, because the left-wing crazies haven't taken over the Democratic Party like they have the GOP.

There was no widespread evidence of fraud in the 2016 election
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2021, 06:55:49 pm »

ArtieChokePhin, do you believe Donald Trump is the true President of the United States right now?
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2021, 07:04:40 pm »

There was no widespread evidence of fraud in the 2016 election

There's no widespread evidence of fraud right now either.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2021, 07:20:51 pm »

Biden is president now, unless his brain gives way.  I have not seen any fraud aegations except from the nut Crowder
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2021, 08:03:21 pm »



There was no widespread evidence of fraud in the 2016 election

There's no widespread evidence of fraud right now either.

Not completely accurate.  There is zero evidence of voter fraud in the 2020 election.  There is overwhelming evidence that the Trump campaign illegally solicited and received Russian assistance in the 2016 election. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2021, 08:48:13 pm »

Slight correction:

Find me a poll from mid-2016 where the majority of Democrats say they believe Hillary Clinton is the president "right now."
This should read "mid-2017."

I will also accept a poll from mid-2001, after Republican-appointed justices on the Supreme Court stopped Florida's recount and installed George W. Bush as President.  No matter how disgruntled Democrats were by this nakedly partisan (and technically legal) theft of the Presidency, at no point was there a polled majority of Democrats who believed that Al Gore was actually the President in 2001.
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2021, 09:18:47 pm »

Even after the 2016 election, you still believe these silly polls? You seem to care a lot about what Republicans think. I think you're really an in the closet Republican. You may identify as a liberal, but you were really born a Republican. Hell, you might be TRANSpolitical, come out that closet already, LMFAO.
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2021, 09:51:49 pm »

Probably 65% of my friends and coworkers are Republicans and I'm not aware of a single one of them who thinks that Trump is the rightful president right now.  I suppose a couple of them might think it, but if they do, they keep awfully quiet about it which means they probably understand how preposterous the idea is.   Reuters is usually a reasonably fair polling source, but I would be very interested it seeing an exact breakdown of how that poll was conducted and what their pool of interviewees consisted of. 
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2021, 08:16:56 am »

ArtieChokePhin, do you believe Donald Trump is the true President of the United States right now?

I believe the election was stolen from him. 
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2021, 08:23:16 am »

stolen by the majority of voters
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2021, 08:45:10 am »

I believe the election was stolen from him. 

This has been so thoroughly disproven over and over again.  It just makes you sound foolish.
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2021, 09:22:03 am »

I don't know if anything has been disproven, it's more about how things can't be proven. 
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2021, 09:32:15 am »

I don't know if anything has been disproven, it's more about how things can't be proven. 

When given the opportunity to support any claims of fraud, they have been unable, over and over and over again.  They say they have evidence, but it's a lie, because they never present it.  It's all a lie for the media, to keep donations coming in and any accusations against Trump, they can call a political hit.

A con-man is lying to you.  He's just lying.  He has been lying this whole time.  He will continue to keep lying.
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2021, 09:36:50 am »

A con-man is lying to you.  He's just lying.  He has been lying this whole time.  He will continue to keep lying.

Trump has been lying since the first time I saw him on TV during the 80's...and it boggles my mind that there are so many completely gullible fools that believe the shit he dishes up.

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