Poll: Majority of Republicans believe Trump is President right now

[Fau Teixeira]

I don't know if anything has been disproven, it's more about how things can't be proven. 

I rode a literal dragon yesterday to work. That's how I had my commute, flying around on a dragon. No-one saw because the dragon used invisibility magic to hide.

It also hasn't been disproven and I'm pretty sure you can't prove it either.

The default of an outlandish claim isn't "i see no proof so someone must be hiding it" .. it's "it didn't happen"

[pondwater]

I don't know if anything has been disproven, it's more about how things can't be proven. 

It really doesn't matter at this point. Creepy Joe and his trainwreck are steaming down the tracks. The midterms should derail his dementia fueled nonsense. If not, hopefully at least he makes it his full term so we don't have a bitter old prostitute running the country.

I would like to note however, while the left may think that Trump supporters sound foolish. There are still a good majority of the left still crying about Russian Collusion. They sound just as foolish, especially with the Hunter Biden China/Russia/Laptop situation. Pot and Kettle situation

[Dolphster]

Trump has been lying since the first time I saw him on TV during the 80's...and it boggles my mind that there are so many completely gullible fools that believe the shit he dishes up.

There is no way of knowing, of course.  But I would be very interested in finding out how many of his supporters actually "believe the shit he dishes up" and how many of them just feel better about themselves because he was saying things that they liked hearing.  Kind of like a hooker telling her customer that he is "the best she ever had".  The customer has to know that is bullshit, but they probably like hearing it nonetheless.  LOL   Um, I have no personal experience in that example.  It is just an assumption on my part.  LOL

[ArtieChokePhin]

When given the opportunity to support any claims of fraud, they have been unable, over and over and over again.  They say they have evidence, but it's a lie, because they never present it.  It's all a lie for the media, to keep donations coming in and any accusations against Trump, they can call a political hit.

A con-man is lying to you.  He's just lying.  He has been lying this whole time.  He will continue to keep lying.

They presented their evidence and the Supreme Court wouldn't hear the case.  The only reason for that is because Chief Justice Roberts claims to be a conservative but in reality is just a liberal plant.

[Sunstroke]

They presented their evidence and the Supreme Court wouldn't hear the case.  The only reason for that is because Chief Justice Roberts claims to be a conservative but in reality is just a liberal plant.

So now your Qanonpublican position is that the Supreme Court, chock-full of Trump appointed lackeys, is actually part of the conspiracy against Donald Trump?

Wow...just...wow

[CF DolFan]

So now your Qanonpublican position is that the Supreme Court, chock-full of Trump appointed lackeys, is actually part of the conspiracy against Donald Trump?

Wow...just...wow

That has nothing to do with what he said and to a point he is right. Look up voting records for Roberts who was nominated by current Democrat George Bush and you'll see he sides with the liberal judges quite often. Establishment is more important than political parties for people like the Bush's and Clinton and Mr Roberts is very establishment friendly. Just ask RBG

[masterfins]

Probably 65% of my friends and coworkers are Republicans and I'm not aware of a single one of them who thinks that Trump is the rightful president right now.  I suppose a couple of them might think it, but if they do, they keep awfully quiet about it which means they probably understand how preposterous the idea is.   Reuters is usually a reasonably fair polling source, but I would be very interested it seeing an exact breakdown of how that poll was conducted and what their pool of interviewees consisted of. 

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I question the poll validity that says 50% of Republicans actually think Trump is President.  Polls can be worded, and spoken by the poller, in a way that elicits the response that the poller wants to receive.  And most respondees just want to get off the phone and don't always pay attention to the exact wording.  Of all the Republicans I know only one thinks Trump is the rightful President, and will still replace Biden.

On the side topic of fraud in the elections, I think it's naive to just categorically say there is no fraud, which is what has happened since right after the election in November; just like I think it's just as wrong to say there was massive fraud without any proof.  I think Biden won the election.  But I also think there could have been some shenanigans, but not enough to change the outcome in several states.  As an example, the congressional district where I live, which covers several counties in upstate New York, was not decided this year until February or March because the vote count was so close.  It had to be litigated before a Judge and there were multiple instances where county election commissioners did not follow the law, or did not know the law.  There were multiple instances were thousands of votes were not counted that should have been counted. (Brindisi vs. Tenney if your interested).  Again, I don't think there could have been enough to change this Presidential election because of the number of states involved, but if it were only one state, then yes I think there could have been enough fraud, or malfeasance, to shift the election.

[CF DolFan]

I think a lot of Republicans think Trump "could" be the president but not that he actually is. Many people thought Hillary actually won. In general people on both sides are leary of what is going on now. There are a lot of opportunities for fraud under the current laws and are why Red states are changing them. The fact you need ID to do many things in regular life but it is racist to require ID for voting is just as absurd as any Q theory but here we are pretending its a normal thing because media is on that side.

[pondwater]

The fact you need ID to do many things in regular life

You need an ID to do pretty much everything in life in modern society. When the democrats say that it's racist to require voter ID. Just a small list of many things that may require ID:

A Job
Bank Account
Writing a check
Using credit cards
Rent an apartment
Get a mortgage
Drive, buy, or rent a car
Get a Drivers License
Get car insurance
Doctor/Hospital
Get a prescription
Get married
Get on an airplane
Get a hotel room
Buying a firearm
Food Stamps
Welfare
Medicaid
Social Security
Unemployment
Alcohol
Cigarettes
Donate blood
Pawn shop
Hold a rally or protest
Plus many more things not listed

Black people's response to what Democrats think about them

If requiring an ID to vote is discriminatory and unconstitutional, then why is it legal to require an ID for all of these other things in life? Because it's just Democrat propaganda. Just like their racist history, Democrats think blacks are too stupid, poor, and/or incompetent to get an ID.

[Fau Teixeira]

Why would legislatures make it illegal to give someone water if they're standing in line to vote?  .. just curious .. anyone ?

[Phishfan]

Why would anyone call writing a check modern society 

[Spider-Dan]

I would like to note however, while the left may think that Trump supporters sound foolish. There are still a good majority of the left still crying about Russian Collusion. They sound just as foolish, especially with the Hunter Biden China/Russia/Laptop situation. Pot and Kettle situation

FBI in agreement with CIA that Russia aimed to help Trump win White House

Suffice it to say that the FBI and/or CIA have not issued statements supporting the claim that there was widespread fraud in the 2020 election, much less that it helped Joe Biden win... nor is their video of Biden literally asking people to commit fraud for him.  So it's not really a good comparison.

The way that the conservative mind works is that if I want to believe that there was widespread fraud in the 2020 election and you say, "That's crazy and baseless," then if there's some other claim you make that I don't like, I can say, "That's crazy and baseless," and it's exactly as valid.

You need an ID to do pretty much everything in life in modern society. When the democrats say that it's racist to require voter ID. Just a small list of many things that may require ID:

[...]
Buying a firearm
Hold a rally or protest
Plus many more things not listed

I deleted every single item in your list that is NOT guaranteed to citizens under the United States Constitution.  So it's a pretty short list now.

As far as the right to protest: you say it may require ID (with "may" doing the work of Atlas in that sentence, as the overwhelming majority of protesting does NOT require ID), but the voting proposals you support make it so that voting will require an ID, which is not the same thing.

[Spider-Dan]

I question the poll validity that says 50% of Republicans actually think Trump is President.  Polls can be worded, and spoken by the poller, in a way that elicits the response that the poller wants to receive.

I posted the exact wording of the question.  The question itself was formatted as:

"Who do you think the true President is right now? Choose one."

Multiple choice with two answers, Donald Trump or Joe Biden.

Of all the Republicans I know only one thinks Trump is the rightful President, and will still replace Biden.

This doesn't sound much different than, "I don't know anyone who voted for Bush, therefore Kerry must have won."

Perhaps the circle of Republicans you personally know are part of the 47% of Republicans that believe Biden is the president.

[Spider-Dan]

I think a lot of Republicans think Trump "could" be the president but not that he actually is. Many people thought Hillary actually won.

Once again: I challenge you to cite any poll that shows a majority of Democrats believed Hillary was the president in mid-2017.

The difference between the right and the left is that our crazies are relegated to the fringe, while your crazies are in charge and running the show.

[pondwater]

Why would legislatures make it illegal to give someone water if they're standing in line to vote?  .. just curious .. anyone ?

The same reason they would make it illegal to give $1000 to people standing in line.