Poll: Majority of Republicans believe Trump is President right now

[pondwater]

Why would anyone call writing a check modern society 

Because some older people are resistant to change and still use checks in 2021. Most people have a checking account and checking accounts have the option to use checks.

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We run a business and still use and accept checks, it's still pretty common especially when dealing with other businesses.

[Sunstroke]

The difference between the right and the left is that our crazies are relegated to the fringe, while your crazies are in charge and running the show.

Nominating this for "most accurate post on TDMMC in a non-sports thread."

The same reason they would make it illegal to give $1000 to people standing in line.

This makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever. Even if I try to adjust my mindset to "I'm a Republican and logic plays no part in my thinking," it still makes no sense.

[Spider-Dan]

We run a business and still use and accept checks, it's still pretty common especially when dealing with other businesses.

Does your business require ID from another business when a check is issued?

In my experience, when a business cuts a check, they usually mail it.  How would "requiring ID" even work in that scenario?

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Does your business require ID from another business when a check is issued?

In my experience, when a business cuts a check, they usually mail it.  How would "requiring ID" even work in that scenario?

You've already shown dubious amounts of ID to get the business account, tax ID, EIN, it's all documented online.  You would have needed an ID to take care of all of that stuff already.

[Spider-Dan]

That is EXACTLY the argument as to why voter ID laws are unnecessary!

In other words, you already have to present some form of identity verification when you register to vote. So when it comes time to cast your ballot, there is no need to have to verify your identity AGAIN; you already verified it during voter registration.

[pondwater]

FBI in agreement with CIA that Russia aimed to help Trump win White House

Suffice it to say that the FBI and/or CIA have not issued statements supporting the claim that there was widespread fraud in the 2020 election, much less that it helped Joe Biden win... nor is their video of Biden literally asking people to commit fraud for him.  So it's not really a good comparison.

The way that the conservative mind works is that if I want to believe that there was widespread fraud in the 2020 election and you say, "That's crazy and baseless," then if there's some other claim you make that I don't like, I can say, "That's crazy and baseless," and it's exactly as valid.

LMFAO, you're posting a link to a story from December 2016 before Trump was even sworn in. Since then there have been many questions answered. Yes, foreign governments interfered with our election process. That's not the same thing as Trump colluding with them which he was cleared of. And it doesn't mean that their interference had any measurable effect.

I deleted every single item in your list that is NOT guaranteed to citizens under the United States Constitution.  So it's a pretty short list now.

As far as the right to protest: you say it may require ID (with "may" doing the work of Atlas in that sentence, as the overwhelming majority of protesting does NOT require ID), but the voting proposals you support make it so that voting will require an ID, which is not the same thing.

I hate to break it to you. But unfortunately, you do not have a constitutional right to vote. Voting in the United States is a privilege, not a right. I think we can all agree that the Supreme Court decides what is constitutional or not.

(Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98, 104 [2000]) Justice Antonin Scalia, in Bush v. Gore, continuously reminded lawyers that there is no explicit right to vote in the United States Constitution. The majority opinion agreed, “The individual citizen has no federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States unless and until the state legislature chooses a statewide election as the means to implement its power to appoint members of the Electoral College.” The Court went on to say that Florida’s legislature has the power to take that power away from the people at any time, regardless of the popular vote tally.

One of countless articles for your reading pleasure. Americans lack right to vote

So in light of that little tidbit of information that I kindly enlightened you with, I'll ask again.

If requiring an ID to vote is discriminatory and unconstitutional, then why is it legal to require an ID for all of these other things in life?

[Phishfan]

We run a business and still use and accept checks, it's still pretty common especially when dealing with other businesses.

Despite what the Supreme Court ruled, business doesn't equate to a person. I've never seen a business check require an ID either.

[ArtieChokePhin]

That is EXACTLY the argument as to why voter ID laws are unnecessary!

In other words, you already have to present some form of identity verification when you register to vote. So when it comes time to cast your ballot, there is no need to have to verify your identity AGAIN; you already verified it during voter registration.

Actually you don't have to present ID to register to vote.  You can fill out an online form and you're done.  That's why you need an ID at the polls.

[Phishfan]

Because some older people are resistant to change and still use checks in 2021. Most people have a checking account and checking accounts have the option to use checks.

We have the option for a landline phone also but I don't know anyone I consider modern using one.

[pondwater]

We have the option for a landline phone also but I don't know anyone I consider modern using one.

It's literally in the name, checking account. It's an account designated to write checks from. A certain percentage of the population writes and cashes personal checks. Most banks and stores require you to show ID.

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Despite what the Supreme Court ruled, business doesn't equate to a person. I've never seen a business check require an ID either.

I was just referring to your comment on why anyone would write a check in modern society.  Spider got me on a different tangent. 

[Spider-Dan]

I hate to break it to you. But unfortunately, you do not have a constitutional right to vote. Voting in the United States is a privilege, not a right. I think we can all agree that the Supreme Court decides what is constitutional or not.

(Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98, 104 [2000]) Justice Antonin Scalia, in Bush v. Gore, continuously reminded lawyers that there is no explicit right to vote in the United States Constitution. The majority opinion agreed, “The individual citizen has no federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States unless and until the state legislature chooses a statewide election as the means to implement its power to appoint members of the Electoral College.” The Court went on to say that Florida’s legislature has the power to take that power away from the people at any time, regardless of the popular vote tally.

I bolded the relevant qualifier in your citation.  SCOTUS most certainly did NOT assert that citizens have no explicit right to vote; states may legally choose their Electoral College delegates in ways other than voting.

The article you linked is either stupid or dishonest.  Taken in good faith, that article means that we ALSO "do not have an explicit constitutional right" to freedom of religion, or speech, or of assembly; the Constitution only says that laws restricting those things are illegal.  But it never specifically says you have those rights in the first place!

So by the standard that you claim voting is not a constitutional right, protesting or freedom of religion aren't constitutional rights, either. To say that constitutional guarantees that the government may not make a law restricting (x) "does not technically mean you have a right to (x)" is, again, either lying or dumb.

[Spider-Dan]

Actually you don't have to present ID to register to vote.  You can fill out an online form and you're done.  That's why you need an ID at the polls.

In which state are you claiming that one can register to vote without identification?

While you consider your answer, another question: do you believe a person needs identification to apply for a state-issued ID card?

[ArtieChokePhin]

In which state are you claiming that one can register to vote without identification?

While you consider your answer, another question: do you believe a person needs identification to apply for a state-issued ID card?

Right here in Florida.  I've done it online myself when I moved, and so have my friends.  When you change the address on your driver's license, you have the option to update your voter registration information.  All that can be done online without ID.

https://registertovoteflorida.gov/home