Poll: Majority of Republicans believe Trump is President right now

[Sunstroke]

You should definitely educate us on this then... I'm assuming you have some mother lode of evidence that nobody else on the planet seems to have.

Look no further than the 1997 City of Miami Mayoral Election.  And don't get me started on Chicago and Detroit.

So...the answer is "you really don't."

If 31 out of "over" a billion votes cast 23 years ago is your definition of a mother lode of evidence, then we aren't living in the same reality at all.

No wonder you still think Donald Trump is President...It's wishful thinking that you've wished for so much that you think it is actually real.

There are professionals out there that can help with that sort of thing. A nice comfy couch and let your feelings pour out...you'll be right as rain in no time.

Be well. 

[CF DolFan]

I also didn't want to let this gem pass without comment:
No, George W. Bush is not a "current Democrat."

The fact that you apparently define who is and is not a "Republican" solely by their level of fealty to Donald Trump is yet another reason why your claims of reluctant support for him ring so hollow.

LMBO ... Hangs out with Democrats and votes Democrat would surely suggest being a Democrat. You know that whole walks like duck thing. RINO was term long before Trump came into office and for good reason. In fact it goes all the way back to days of Theodore Roosevelt. It was also very popular during the Clinton years when I was still voting Democrat.

[pondwater]

LMBO ... Hangs out with Democrats and votes Democrat would surely suggest being a Democrat. You know that whole walks like duck thing. RINO was term long before Trump came into office and for good reason. In fact it goes all the way back to days of Theodore Roosevelt. It was also very popular during the Clinton years when I was still voting Democrat.

You know it's funny. I just realized that this thread is such bullshit nonsense. First of all, let me know when they poll every Republican to qualify the "majority of Republicans" claim. Second, what was the battle cry of the Democrats when Trump won? "Not My President"

Might as well make a thread about how Democrats didn't think Trump was their president.

[Sunstroke]

LMBO ... Hangs out with Democrats and votes Democrat would surely suggest being a Democrat.

Easily explained...

Bush voted Democrat because, like most sane people not fearing for their jobs, he recognizes what a psychotic chronic lying whackjob that Trump was, is and forever will be.

Hanging out with Democrats...just means he bores easily with conspiracy conversations.

[Dave Gray]

"Not My President"

I've always hated this line and never use it.  I remember this going back to W. Bush and I hated it then, too. 

[pondwater]

I've always hated this line and never use it.  I remember this going back to W. Bush and I hated it then, too. 

It's the same thing as the title of this thread though. Fringe whackjob extremists on both sides that deny reality. Claiming the real POTUS isn't your POTUS isn't any different from claiming the prior POTUS is really POTUS.

[Sunstroke]

You know it's funny. I just realized that this thread is such bullshit nonsense. First of all, let me know when they poll every Republican to qualify the "majority of Republicans" claim. Second, what was the battle cry of the Democrats when Trump won? "Not My President"

Might as well make a thread about how Democrats didn't think Trump was their president.

The obvious difference that you are intentionally disregarding is the FACT that there is a shit-ton of evidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 election on Trump's behalf, but no evidence of any kind that there was any fraud in the 2020 election involved except for a few limited individuals.

Trump was never my president. He was a global embarrassment that damaged America's reputation every time he opened his mouth or touched a keyboard.

[Spider-Dan]

You know it's funny. I just realized that this thread is such bullshit nonsense. First of all, let me know when they poll every Republican to qualify the "majority of Republicans" claim.

Ah, so now you think polling is not valid unless they poll every person that qualifies...?  That's an interesting change:

Disapproval of Obamacare spikes in new poll conducted from Nov.14 through17. Might be bad for the democrats in the next election.

Didn't hear you saying that they needed to poll every American to qualify a "spike in disapproval of Obamacare."  I think I can guess why you were happy to accept that poll!

Second, what was the battle cry of the Democrats when Trump won? "Not My President"

Random people on Twitter is not the same thing as a scientifically conducted poll.  The fact that a majority of Republicans stated that Trump is the true President right now in a poll by a reputable, professional polling company is what separates it from randos insisting that George Bush did 9/11, or that Obama is planning to invade Texas.

I mean, if I really wanted to nutpick, I would have posted links to a bunch of anti-vax Republicans insisting that the COVID vaccine turns you into Magneto.

[Dave Gray]

Mod note -- I've deleted some personal attacks.

Please discuss the topic, not each other.

[pondwater]

Ah, so now you think polling is not valid unless they poll every person that qualifies...?  That's an interesting change:
Didn't hear you saying that they needed to poll every American to qualify a "spike in disapproval of Obamacare."  I think I can guess why you were happy to accept that poll!

You're going back 8 years to quote me out of context on a topic that has nothing to do with the current topic, LMFAO.


The main difference is the premise of the two claims. My post from 8 years ago suggested that the results of the poll

Might be bad for the democrats in the next election.

It was in addition to my prior post, which in fact turned out to be correct. It was bad for the Democrats in the next 2 elections.

Why do you think that the Obama administration is choosing not to enforce the law as written until after the midterm elections? Because he knows, that once the proverbial employer mandate shit hits the fan, that every democrat that voted for this bullshit is going to be run out of Washington.

Your post on the other hand smells of fake news clickbait and implies that over half of all Republicans in the country believe that Trump is still president. Which is obviously not even close to being a fact.

[Dolphster]

I wish football season would hurry up and get here.   LOL

[pondwater]

Random people on Twitter is not the same thing as a scientifically conducted poll.  The fact that a majority of Republicans stated that Trump is the true President right now in a poll by a reputable, professional polling company is what separates it from randos insisting that George Bush did 9/11, or that Obama is planning to invade Texas.

Random whackjobs on twitter? I could be wrong, but I don't recall anyone here saying they thought Trump was still POTUS. We do however have this here:

Trump was never my president.

I mean, if you want, I can play that game too and say Over half of adults ages 18-30 saw Trump's presidency as illegitimate. Hell politicians were even questioning Trump being president.

Trump's legitimacy as president was questioned earlier this year by Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga.

I'm waiting for you to proclaim Sunstroke, Rep. John Lewis, and over half of all adults aged 18-30 in the US as random conspiracy nutjobs. Because after all, Trump was in fact the legitimate POTUS of every legal US citizen. Unless of course you disagree with the previous statement.

[pondwater]

I wish football season would hurry up and get here.   LOL

Agreed.

[Dave Gray]

It's the same thing as the title of this thread though. Fringe whackjob extremists on both sides that deny reality.

I don't think "not my president" is fringe whackjobs.  I don't think that denial of facts, either -- I think it's just poor phrasing, meaning that the elected official doesn't represent your values -- kinda protest shorthand.

However, I think that it's just not productive.  I believe we're better off to try to own the bad seeds and correct them, rather than try to distance yourself from them.  It's like "don't blame me, I voted for XYZ".  ...like, who gives a shit, it's not about blame.  I want any politician regardless of party to make the country better.  There are a few cases where I'll root for political failure because I think it's better for the long term, like with social issue shit.

I can make a whole list of related stupid shit that both sides say:
- "If you don't like the stimulus money, send it back" is an example.

I don't find it hypocritical to be against welfare or unemployment or social security and then proudly accept it when you need it.  You've paid in, and it's what you're entitled to, for example.


As for Trump and Russia, I do think that what is probably correct -- Trump was legally elected president, I have no doubt of that.  There's a question of whether involvement (unsure whether him directly or those working on his behalf) with foreign powers was simply unethical or also illegal.  Either way, it doesn't mean he wasn't elected, it just might have meant that there were consequences to those actions.  It also showed that our system of government has holes when the very people who are overseeing these issues have vested interests in their own protection.  It exposed some problems that we need to address in lots of ways.

[CF DolFan]

I'm very old school ... well compared to people today. I'm not a fan of Biden or Harris but they are my President and VP. If ever given the chance to meet them I would be respectful. Since social media brought idiots together we as a country do not respect people near enough in my opinion.