Poll: Majority of Republicans believe Trump is President right now

[Dolphster]

I'm not a fan of Biden or Harris but they are my President and VP. If ever given the chance to meet them I would be respectful. Since social media brought idiots together we as a country do not respect people near enough in my opinion.

Same here.  I go with the "Salute The Rank, Not The Individual" route.  I think Jimmy Carter is the worst president in our history.  But if I had the chance to meet him I would refer to him as Mr. President and would tell him what an honor it is to meet him. And it would be sincere.  I can (and do) disagree with someone and still respect them. 

I think social media is a big part of why we as a country do not respect people near enough.  Being able to talk to someone like an a-hole behind the anonymity of a keyboard allows everyone to be a "tough guy".    But I think there are other contributing factors too.  Erosion of the family unit, lack of socialization in a large segment of youth because of video games, etc.  Also, having political leaders and societal "role models" speaking disrespectfully to people and being generally uncouth is part of it as well. 

[CF DolFan]

Same here.  I go with the "Salute The Rank, Not The Individual" route.  I think Jimmy Carter is the worst president in our history.  But if I had the chance to meet him I would refer to him as Mr. President and would tell him what an honor it is to meet him. And it would be sincere.  I can (and do) disagree with someone and still respect them. 

I think social media is a big part of why we as a country do not respect people near enough.  Being able to talk to someone like an a-hole behind the anonymity of a keyboard allows everyone to be a "tough guy".    But I think there are other contributing factors too.  Erosion of the family unit, lack of socialization in a large segment of youth because of video games, etc.  Also, having political leaders and societal "role models" speaking disrespectfully to people and being generally uncouth is part of it as well. 

Jimmy was a horrible president (my family supported him wholeheartedly) but he has been tremendous after leaving office. He has used his platform better than any other president in my lifetime.

[Dolphster]

Jimmy was a horrible president (my family supported him wholeheartedly) but he has been tremendous after leaving office. He has used his platform better than any other president in my lifetime.

 I don't have a problem with that comment.  I think he is a good man.  Just a horrible president. 

[Dave Gray]

I would agree with you about respect for office, but I don't think I could be sincere with Trump.  I think he's a bad person and would scorch the Earth of America and Democracy for personal gain.

I would absolutely respect Bush, W, Reagan, and pretty much any GOP Leader...some that I intensely dislike, like Ted Cruz or Mitch McConnel, even.

I truly, honestly believe that Trump is a charlatan who is scamming his own supporters and they just haven't realized it yet.  I disagreed with Bush, but I thought he was out for what he thought was best for us.  I don't believe that about Trump for a second.  I think he's an opportunist and a literal, diagnosable egomaniac.

[pondwater]

I don't think "not my president" is fringe whackjobs.  I don't think that denial of facts, either -- I think it's just poor phrasing, meaning that the elected official doesn't represent your values -- kinda protest shorthand.

That doesn't explain the widespread democrat claim parroted by Jimmy Carter, Hillary Clinton, Rep. John Lewis and over half of adults ages 18-30 who viewed Trump's presidency as illegitimate(il·le·git·i·mate: adjective - not authorized by the law). But wasn't Trump the Legitimate POTUS as soon as he was sworn in?

So either all those people are ignorant and don't actually know the definitions of the words they use. Or they're just plain lying out of spite. Or???


Now back to the "Not my president" vs the title of this thread. Dave do you really believe that over half of all Republicans in the country actually think that Trump is still in office and running the country.

Or could they basically be saying, "Biden doesn't represent my values so I"ll claim trump as my president" (ie "not my president". It's basically the same thing, poor phrasing.

[Dolphster]

I would agree with you about respect for office, but I don't think I could be sincere with Trump.  I think he's a bad person and would scorch the Earth of America and Democracy for personal gain.

I would absolutely respect Bush, W, Reagan, and pretty much any GOP Leader...some that I intensely dislike, like Ted Cruz or Mitch McConnel, even.

I truly, honestly believe that Trump is a charlatan who is scamming his own supporters and they just haven't realized it yet.  I disagreed with Bush, but I thought he was out for what he thought was best for us.  I don't believe that about Trump for a second.  I think he's an opportunist and a literal, diagnosable egomaniac.

I definitely get that, Dave.  I was "meh" on most of Trump's policies (agreed with some, disagreed with some) but like you, I think he is a truly despicable narcissist as a human being.  I would feel like I needed a shower and disinfecting after meeting him, but I would force myself to be respectful.  I just wouldn't feel very good about myself afterwards.  lol 

[Fau Teixeira]

I definitely get that, Dave.  I was "meh" on most of Trump's policies (agreed with some, disagreed with some) but like you, I think he is a truly despicable narcissist as a human being.  I would feel like I needed a shower and disinfecting after meeting him, but I would force myself to be respectful.  I just wouldn't feel very good about myself afterwards.  lol 

I 100% agree with Dave. I don't necessarily think politics defines the person, and I dislike Trump not because of his politics, but because of his character, ethics and morals. That being said, i wouldn't be disrespectful to him (or really to anyone) without good reason. What i mean is i wouldn't slap him across the face like some french guy did to Macron the other day. But I avoided visiting the white-house (as a tourist) while he was president. Even tho i would have while Bush was president.

[Sunstroke]

I would agree with you about respect for office, but I don't think I could be sincere with Trump.  I think he's a bad person and would scorch the Earth of America and Democracy for personal gain.
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I truly, honestly believe that Trump is a charlatan who is scamming his own supporters and they just haven't realized it yet.  I disagreed with Bush, but I thought he was out for what he thought was best for us.  I don't believe that about Trump for a second.  I think he's an opportunist and a literal, diagnosable egomaniac.

And the truth was heard throughout the land...or at least throughout TDMMC.

[pondwater]

I think he's a bad person and would scorch the Earth of America and Democracy for personal gain.

Hell, the other half of the country was saying that about the Clintons (specifically that evil succubus Hillary) long before Trump came around.  Many feel the same way about Hillary that you feel about Trump. Tit for tat I guess

I truly, honestly believe that Trump is a charlatan who is scamming his own supporters and they just haven't realized it yet.

Again, the other half of the country was saying that about the Clintons long before Trump came around. Many feel the same way about Hillary that you feel about Trump. Tit for tat I guess

[pondwater]

And the truth was heard throughout the land...or at least throughout TDMMC.

Thank you for your wise words from mental institution. But you wouldn't know the truth if walked up and sat on your face. Just sayin 🥴🥴🥴

[Dolphster]

I 100% agree with Dave. I don't necessarily think politics defines the person, and I dislike Trump not because of his politics, but because of his character, ethics and morals. That being said, i wouldn't be disrespectful to him (or really to anyone) without good reason. What i mean is i wouldn't slap him across the face like some french guy did to Macron the other day. But I avoided visiting the white-house (as a tourist) while he was president. Even tho i would have while Bush was president.

I have no problem with your take on that at all.  Totally get where you are coming from.  Of course it also works both ways.  I disagreed with most of Obama's policies, but I truly believe he cared about people and wanted to do what he thought was right.  I can respectfully agree to disagree with someone and Obama always came across as a good guy and someone I could talk sports over a beer with. 

[Sunstroke]

Hell, the other half of the country was saying that about the Clintons (specifically that evil succubus Hillary) long before Trump came around.  Many feel the same way about Hillary that you feel about Trump. Tit for tat I guess
Again, the other half of the country was saying that about the Clintons long before Trump came around. Many feel the same way about Hillary that you feel about Trump. Tit for tat I guess

The difference is that you thought that because you were force fed that shit by fox until it changed your eye color, while I think that because it is obvious to everyone with a fully functional brain that Trump is a psychotic whcackjob who cares nothing about anything but himself.

When you grow up, you may understand.

In the meantime, your mother says hello from the asylum...

[pondwater]

I disagreed with most of Obama's policies, but I truly believe he cared about people

With a straight face, can you say the same about Hillary? Most of the right including me can't

[pondwater]

The difference is that you thought that because you were force fed that shit by fox until it changed your eye color, while I think that because it is obvious to everyone with a fully functional brain that Trump is a psychotic whcackjob who cares nothing about anything but himself.

Not true. Hillary is much worse than Trump. That's why Trump won in a fair and legal election. Therefore becoming YOUR PRESIDENT because the law says so. Now run along and take your lithium, you're drifting again...

When you grow up, you may understand.

In the meantime, your mother says hello from the asylum...

Well when you get done with her, put her back in the urn. Enjoy your jello salad you sick bastard 🙄🙄🤔🤔🤣🤣

[CF DolFan]

I wasn't a fan of Trump before he became president. In an odd exchange for me at least ... I only like him for his politics. I still think he is narcissistic ass but I'm ok with that as long as he supports the same policies as I. Regardless of why he is doing it or how many times he brags upon himself at the end of the day it's politics. I'd also bet most politicians are asses but are afraid to show it like him. 

Now I'm a huge fan of Ron DeSantis and am hoping he doesn't get caught up in the Trump circus like many are wanting. Ron is the more polished version of Trump. Same politics but in a much more professional version.