Biden To Americans Who Own Guns: You Need Jets, Nuclear Weapons To Take Us On

[Spider-Dan]

Who here thinks that if Trump would have said something about using F15s and nukes against his political opponents.

I've gotta say that I'm somewhat disappointed in myself.  I keep making the same mistake of taking a conservative's claim in good faith when I should know better.

Let's just say that there's a very good reason why there is neither a direct quote, nor a link to a direct quote, in the original post.

Sunstroke called this correctly from jump.

[CF DolFan]

not for nothing but the recovery act that the democrats passed and biden signed contained money for states and cities to fund things like police departments .. and the republicans voted against it. So the democrats actually funded police and the republicans were against funding the police .. ijs

And you quickly prove my point. You believe that is what actually happened if you want. As Paul Harvey would say .... you need to research the "rest of the story" and not just the liberal lies and bullet points they tell you to speak.

[pondwater]

I've gotta say that I'm somewhat disappointed in myself.  I keep making the same mistake of taking a conservative's claim in good faith when I should know better.

Let's just say that there's a very good reason why there is neither a direct quote, nor a link to a direct quote, in the original post.

Sunstroke called this correctly from jump.

Fuck man use google, it's all over the place. Your sissy friend is rarely ever correct. There's no need to make shit up when Biden starts slurring his words like he's having a stroke while simultaneously drinking a cheap bottle of gin.

“The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own,” Biden said. “You couldn’t buy a cannon. [Those who] say the blood of the, the blood of patriots, you know, and all this stuff about how we’re going to have to move against the government.”

“Well, the tree of liberty is not [watered with] the blood of patriots, what’s happened is that there never been, if you want, if you think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons”

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1407808797029113857

Are cannons illegal or is ole Creepy Joe lying again?

[Spider-Dan]

Biden said that if you want to take on the US government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons.

This is not even remotely in the same ballpark, league, or sport as Biden threatened to use nuclear weapons on Americans.

This thread should not exist.  It is based on a lie, and a rather ridiculous one at that.

[ArtieChokePhin]

Biden said that if you want to take on the US government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons.

This is not even remotely in the same ballpark, league, or sport as Biden threatened to use nuclear weapons on Americans.

This thread should not exist.  It is based on a lie, and a rather ridiculous one at that.

It's based on a false statement by Biden.  Citizens can take on the U.S. government.  January 6 proved that.  Too bad it wasn't successful. 

[pondwater]

Biden said that if you want to take on the US government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons.

This is not even remotely in the same ballpark, league, or sport as Biden threatened to use nuclear weapons on Americans.

This thread should not exist.  It is based on a lie, and a rather ridiculous one at that.

Why exactly would a very large group of Americans "taking on" the government need F-15s and nuclear weapons?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Funny you mention getting invaded by another country.   In WWII, after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, someone asked a Japanese Admiral if he planned to invade America from the Pacific Coast.  He said, "No because there will be an American citizen with a rifle hiding behind every tree, rock, and blade of grass"

1 That is false, like most pro-gun arguments it is founded on straight up lies about history.

2. Wouldn’t have even made sense.  Gun ownership in the US was less than a quarter of what it was today.  And mostly hunting rifles in rural areas.  Very low gun ownership in coastal cities.

[pondwater]

1 That is false, like most pro-gun arguments it is founded on straight up lies about history.

2. Wouldn’t have even made sense.  Gun ownership in the US was less than a quarter of what it was today.  And mostly hunting rifles in rural areas.  Very low gun ownership in coastal cities.

Yeah, cannons are illegal and always have been. That is a straight up lie from the POTUS, just another lying piece of shit...

[Spider-Dan]

Citizens can take on the U.S. government.  January 6 proved that.

From the Whiskey Rebellion, to the Civil War, to Waco, to the Capitol invasion... citizens have been taking on the US government and losing since the nation's founding.

I don't think anyone disputes what kind of armaments are needed to take on our government and lose.

Too bad it wasn't successful.

The mask is slipping a bit.  You're supposed to pretend to be a supporter of the Constitution, not of traitors that want to overthrow it.  Gotta stay in character!

[Spider-Dan]

Why exactly would a very large group of Americans "taking on" the government need F-15s and nuclear weapons?

When it comes to the largest and most powerful military this planet has ever seen, if you want to defeat and take control of it by force of arms then you absolutely will need nuclear weapons.

[Dolphster]

This thread contains some of the dumbest discussions I have ever seen at TDMMC. 

[pondwater]

When it comes to the largest and most powerful military this planet has ever seen, if you want to defeat and take control of it by force of arms then you absolutely will need nuclear weapons.

You'll only "need" them if the largest most powerful military on the planet has the balls to use them on their own soil to kill to it's own innocent citizens over the short and long term. Well do they?

[Spider-Dan]

You'll only "need" them if the largest most powerful military on the planet has the balls to use them on their own soil to kill to it's own innocent citizens over the short and long term. Well do they?

I'm sure you can understand that "You need nuclear weapons to defeat us" does not mean the same thing as "We need nuclear weapons to defeat you."

The largest and most powerful military in the world would not need nuclear weapons to stop civilians with rifles.

[ArtieChokePhin]

The mask is slipping a bit.  You're supposed to pretend to be a supporter of the Constitution, not of traitors that want to overthrow it.  Gotta stay in character!

"When a form of government becomes destructive, it is the right of the people to stand up and alter or abolish it"

~ Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence

[pondwater]

I'm sure you can understand that "You need nuclear weapons to defeat us" does not mean the same thing as "We need nuclear weapons to defeat you."

The largest and most powerful military in the world would not need nuclear weapons to stop civilians with rifles.

Of course that's what it means. If what you say is true, why can't "the most powerful military in the world" stop civilians with Soviet era weapons and Toyotas?

You haven't really addressed anything being discussed. All you keep saying over and over is the "most powerful military" blah blah blah. But "the Civil War proved" blah blah blah. If that's all you got then your argument sucks.

If you threaten to beat my ass and I tell you that you'll need a gun to win. I am in fact threatening to use my gun if you attempt to beat my ass. The fact Biden would bring up "taking on the government" and "you'll need F15s and nukes" implies that we have more powerful weapons than you and we'll use them before we let you win. Dog whistles from the trained professionals who invented them.

Like I said earlier, if Trump would have said the same thing you would be all over it. You can spin it anyhow you want, but it shows your hypocrisy and just how weak your arguments actually are.