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Phishfan
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« Reply #60 on: August 03, 2021, 10:03:21 am »

If everyone were vaccinated, we wouldn't need to care about spreading the disease and masks would be unnecessary.

It would be nothing more than the flu, bro.

Even discounting those that refuse to vaccinate, it is impossible that everyone could be vaccinated.
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« Reply #61 on: August 03, 2021, 10:13:58 am »

Even discounting those that refuse to vaccinate, it is impossible that everyone could be vaccinated.

If they're allergic to the vaccine or components of the vaccine, they can take an alternate vaccine, there's about a dozen different covid vaccines all with different ingredients.

If they have a religious exemption to the vaccine, they can go fuck themselves, fairy tales don't mean shit to a virus.

If you have a personal issue with vaccinations, you can go fuck yourself as well. You live in a society that has rules. You aren't allowed to dump toxic chemicals in a river, why are you allowed to dump viruses into the air.

If they're immunocompromised and a vaccine won't allow them to build immunity, then they need to rely on herd immunity. This also applies to those who are too young to take the vaccine. And these people are the only ones who have a legitimate claim to not being able get vaccinated.
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« Reply #62 on: August 03, 2021, 10:37:36 am »

If they have a religious exemption to the vaccine, they can go fuck themselves, fairy tales don't mean shit to a virus.

If you have a personal issue with vaccinations, you can go fuck yourself as well. You live in a society that has rules. You aren't allowed to dump toxic chemicals in a river, why are you allowed to dump viruses into the air.

You mad bro? LMFAO, please further explain these actual rules in place that society has regarding Covid.
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« Reply #63 on: August 03, 2021, 10:53:30 am »

i'm not mad, i'm just disappointed that people are selfish and stupid.
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« Reply #64 on: August 03, 2021, 11:34:00 am »

It is possible for a vaccinated person to catch and spread the disease.  But it is extremely rare for that to happen.  Less than 0.001 % of all vaccinated people have had a breakthrough infection.  OTOH, it is extremely common for unvaccinated people (even those who have previously had the disease) to catch and spread it.

Masks for vaccinated or masks for no one is the equivalent as saying if car are required to have airbags than electric wheelchair need them too.  Either all motor vehicles or none.  

Mandate masks for the unvaccinated.  And ban the unvaccinated from restaurants, bars and other places that require mask removal.  

That.001 looks pulled out of your ass because a report from the 30th  says .08 which they say is likely higher because 9 states didn't report information and it doesn't account for untested people, which they could never get data on.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/breakthrough-covid-cases-least-125-000-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-n1275500
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« Reply #65 on: August 03, 2021, 11:57:16 am »

That.001 looks pulled out of your ass because a report from the 30th  says .08 which they say is likely higher because 9 states didn't report information and it doesn't account for untested people, which they could never get data on.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/breakthrough-covid-cases-least-125-000-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-n1275500

so the vaccines are 99.92% effective at preventing breakthrough infections ? That's incredibly great !!!
even if that .08 is .18 .. that's 99.82% prevention of symptomatic illness from a vaccine ? .. i'll take that any day and twice on sunday
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« Reply #66 on: August 03, 2021, 12:27:15 pm »

That.001 looks pulled out of your ass because a report from the 30th  says .08 which they say is likely higher because 9 states didn't report information and it doesn't account for untested people, which they could never get data on.


No, I got it off the CDC website, but on careful reflection I was quoting the incidence of fetality not infection.  But even going .08 that is 8 out of 10,000.  Which is low enough for me.
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« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2021, 12:53:33 pm »

i'm not mad, i'm just disappointed that people are selfish and stupid.
Most people are selfish and stupid.
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« Reply #68 on: August 03, 2021, 04:09:33 pm »

so the vaccines are 99.92% effective at preventing breakthrough infections ? That's incredibly great !!!
even if that .08 is .18 .. that's 99.82% prevention of symptomatic illness from a vaccine ? .. i'll take that any day and twice on sunday

As i said, it's likely a higher rate of infection.
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« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2021, 04:21:22 pm »

No, I got it off the CDC website, but on careful reflection I was quoting the incidence of fetality not infection.  But even going .08 that is 8 out of 10,000.  Which is low enough for me.

But you can't even trust those numbers as I  outlined, 9 states reported no information,  several more gave partial information and there is going to be even less account of asymptomatic infections because how many vaccinated people that feel fine are getting tested? Basically the point is no one knows the numbers so trying to give statistics is pointless. Masks for everyone or no one.
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« Reply #70 on: August 04, 2021, 08:40:49 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtEk8TOl7bU   Every single comment on this video is expressing skepticism, and/or accusing CBS of outright mistruthing. 
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« Reply #71 on: August 04, 2021, 09:40:03 pm »

I have a feeling about the nature of the "research" being performed by the armchair experts in YouTube comment sections:

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« Reply #72 on: August 04, 2021, 10:12:32 pm »

I have a feeling about the nature of the "research" being performed by the armchair experts in YouTube comment sections:



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« Reply #73 on: August 04, 2021, 10:52:11 pm »

My video had nothing do with vaccines.  It was about numbers.  People thin the media is not being honest about the numbers.     
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« Reply #74 on: August 05, 2021, 08:45:34 am »

My video had nothing do with vaccines.  It was about numbers.  People thin the media is not being honest about the numbers.     

The moment I see someone trying to talk serious about something...and they post a youtube video, I laugh and think "what a maroon!"



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