Covid in Florida

[pondwater]

I don't remember seeing this point, but I can give you an answer right now: this is an incredibly lazy troll question, on the same level as "You guys say you are pro-life but you don't want to mandate a vaccine to protect against a disease that has killed millions worldwide over the last year?"

1st of all. Abortion has nothing to do with this discussion. However, my opinion is that if you've had more than one abortion from having voluntary sex. You're a lazy sack of shit moron with no character or integrity. Other than that, I don't give a shit about abortion.

I find it interesting though, black people seem very sceptical of the vaccine. As a group, democrats are pushing this vaccine harder than anyone else. The majority of blacks vote democrat. However, the overwhelming majority of the black people that I've talked to (that's a lot) haven't been vaccinated and given the impression that they wouldn't be getting vaccinated. So let's not put this strictly on conservatives.

All you guys do is complain about the racism card being thrown around willy-nilly, but now we're supposed to believe that you are deeply concerned about potential racism against the people you don't mind turning away from the polling booth?  It's not even remotely convincing.

There are legitimate concerns about poor people (and therefore, disproportionately minorities) being unable to take two days off from work to recover from the short-term symptoms that accompany some of the vaccines, but I know the "People are getting too much money from unemployment" crew doesn't give the slightest damn about that.

Oh, make no mistake. I'm not concerned about non existent racism at the voting booth or the Covid vaccine booth. The point is that the left is labeling the right as "anti-vaxxers". When in reality, Blacks and Hispanics are overwhelmingly majority democrat, but yet have lower vaccination percentage rates compared to whites. Therefore, logic would dictate that Democrats are the real anti-vaxxers.

[Sunstroke]

Seeing as they have the guns, I hope that if she tells them to get vaccinated or lose their job, they shoot her dead.  Same deal with military personnel.

The military is already mandated to get vaccinated or undergo regular testing...and I'll semi-assume that you weren't serious when you suggested that police or our military shoot an American citizen, just because they disagree with your position on vaccines.

[Spider-Dan]

The point is that the left is labeling the right as "anti-vaxxers". When in reality, Blacks and Hispanics are overwhelmingly majority democrat, but yet have lower vaccination percentage rates compared to whites. Therefore, logic would dictate that Democrats are the real anti-vaxxers.

You know we can directly compare the vaccination rates of Democrats and Republicans, right?  Here's a hint: Democrats are FAR ahead.

Furthermore, black Americans (as a whole) have a higher vaccination rate than white Republicans.  So let's not try to pretend that we don't know where the problem is.

[pondwater]

You know we can directly compare the vaccination rates of Democrats and Republicans, right?  Here's a hint: Democrats are FAR ahead.

Furthermore, black Americans (as a whole) have a higher vaccination rate than white Republicans.  So let's not try to pretend that we don't know where the problem is.

There isn't a problem anywhere as far as vaccination rates. It's a free country, if you want the vaccine get it. If you don't, don't get it. The problem is the false narrative blame game the liberals play. The two groups with the lowest vaccination rates are black and Hispanic, that's a fact. I'm waiting for you to specifically call them out as "anti vaxxers" and publicly shame them for refusing the vaccine.

I mean a white Republican is no better or worse than a black/Hispanic Democrat. It's fairly transparent why they are being treated differently. But then again, I expect the hypocrisy and double standards from the left. It's what their whole platform was and is built on from the start. Wait, let me guess, it's the Republicans fault that blacks and Hispanics have the lowest vaccination rates, LMFAO.....

[Phishfan]

The military is already mandated to get vaccinated or undergo regular testing...and I'll semi-assume that you weren't serious when you suggested that police or our military shoot an American citizen, just because they disagree with your position on vaccines.

Which mandatory vaccination are you talking about? I can't even count how many shots the military is required to take.

[Spider-Dan]

Before we proceed any further with this concern trolling, can you please clarify whether you believe failing to get vaccinated is a bad thing?  Because it seems pretty ridiculous for you to argue that there's nothing wrong at all with choosing not to get vaccinated, BUT ALSO that I should be super concerned with the racial breakdown of vaccine statistics.

Seems to me that rather than reaching for skin color to explain the trends, it's much more effective (and accurate) to look at ideology.  But I suppose that if the only tool you have is a hammer, every nail can be explained away as the failing of a morally inferior race.

[ArtieChokePhin]

The military is already mandated to get vaccinated or undergo regular testing...and I'll semi-assume that you weren't serious when you suggested that police or our military shoot an American citizen, just because they disagree with your position on vaccines.

You're assuming wrong.   You don't give another American citizen an ultimatum regarding something like this.   If you do, you're asking to get shot or get hurt. 

[Spider-Dan]

You're assuming wrong.   You don't give another American citizen an ultimatum regarding something like this.   If you do, you're asking to get shot or get hurt.

Did you ever attend a public school in America?
Do you have kids that have ever attended a public school in America?
You're about 50 years too late to object to the concept of mandatory vaccinations in this country, my dude.

As for your favorite gunslinging cops in Chicago: if they don't like the terms of employment, there's the door.  They can experience the freedom of exciting new job opportunities.

[ArtieChokePhin]

Did you ever attend a public school in America?
Do you have kids that have ever attended a public school in America?
You're about 50 years too late to object to the concept of mandatory vaccinations in this country, my dude.

As for your favorite gunslinging cops in Chicago: if they don't like the terms of employment, there's the door.  They can experience the freedom of exciting new job opportunities.

The difference between the military and the cops is the cops have unions.   That means they have union lawyers.   If any lawyer can successfully beat this in court, it's a union lawyer.

[Sunstroke]

Which mandatory vaccination are you talking about? I can't even count how many shots the military is required to take.

Since this is a thread about COVID, I think you could've answered that one yourself.

Right?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

You're about 50 years too late to object to the concept of mandatory vaccinations in this country, my dude.

Correction 116.  Jacobson v. Mass 1905.  States have the authority to mandate vaccines during a pandemic.  Note this law applied to all inhabitants of the community, not just those in a employed by the state or attending public schools.

[Dave Gray]

Do you personally know anyone who got a 3rd booster shot? -- I have two.

Both have wonky immune systems.

[ArtieChokePhin]

Correction 116.  Jacobson v. Mass 1905.  States have the authority to mandate vaccines during a pandemic.  Note this law applied to all inhabitants of the community, not just those in a employed by the state or attending public schools.

States, not the federal government.   And DeSantis will never make the COVID vaccine mandatory as long as he is in office.

[Spider-Dan]

George Washington already proved that the federal government can mandate vaccines for the military... and that was before we had a volunteer military.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

States, not the federal government.   And DeSantis will never make the COVID vaccine mandatory as long as he is in office.

That particular case was dealing with a state law.  But the feds would have no problem making the case that the virus affects interstate commerce.