Covid in Florida

[pondwater]

Before we proceed any further with this concern trolling, can you please clarify whether you believe failing to get vaccinated is a bad thing?  Because it seems pretty ridiculous for you to argue that there's nothing wrong at all with choosing not to get vaccinated, BUT ALSO that I should be super concerned with the racial breakdown of vaccine statistics.

Seems to me that rather than reaching for skin color to explain the trends, it's much more effective (and accurate) to look at ideology.  But I suppose that if the only tool you have is a hammer, every nail can be explained away as the failing of a morally inferior race.

Wait, you think that a morally inferior race exists? Well that would explain most of your nonsense viewpoints. So basically what you're saying is that you'll be more than happy to scream and yell about white conservative anti-vaxxers, but when it comes to black and Hispanic anti-vaxxers, they get a pass. You're so full of shit.

[Phishfan]

Since this is a thread about COVID, I think you could've answered that one yourself.

Right?

My question was rhetorical. The point was another poster was up in arms about the COVID vaccination when our military personel are basically pin cushions.

[dolphins4life]

Both tests came back negative.  I have the common cold.  Surprising to me that the common cold does not have a diagnostic test.  I had over two hundred fifty hours of personal time saved, so I was able to take two and half days off of my heath care work.  I have an entire weekend of shifts at the grocery store.  I am trying to find out if I catch the virus now, wi it be more deadly because of my cold.  Haven't been able to find the answer.     

[Phishfan]

You are allowed to bank that much time? Wow.

[CF DolFan]

You are allowed to bank that much time? Wow.

When I worked for Seminole County some people had in excess of 1100 hours until they changed the process. People like banking it to sell back when they retire. Needless to say it seemed like the people who had the most PTO banked was the grouchiest people at work. Go figure ... hahaha.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

When I worked for Seminole County some people had in excess of 1100 hours until they changed the process. People like banking it to sell back when they retire. Needless to say it seemed like the people who had the most PTO banked was the grouchiest people at work. Go figure ... hahaha.

When my grandmother retired after working for NYC for 48 years she had a combined 53 weeks of vacation and sick time.  They didn't have a buy back program, rather she stopped coming in for work about a year before she officially retired.

[Spider-Dan]

So basically what you're saying is that you'll be more than happy to scream and yell about white conservative anti-vaxxers, but when it comes to black and Hispanic anti-vaxxers, they get a pass. You're so full of shit.

Conservatives as a whole have lower vaccination rates than black or Hispanic Americans, but you don't care about that.  In fact, for some unknown reason, the only time you seem to care about anti-vaxxers at all is when you can say, "Why aren't you screaming and yelling about all the black and Hispanic anti-vaxxers?"  Truly an unsolvable mystery.

The sad part is that you appear to think you've caught me in some sort of logical trap that exposes me...?  But since I'm not a conservative, I can actually have a set of morals that I stand by, which makes this "problem" easy to resolve.  Feel free to mark the tape:

All people who oppose vaccines, of any race, on the right or on the left, are full of shit (some literally so).  Their ignorance and selfishness is making things worse for all of us and causing hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths.

Would you like to find a black or Hispanic anti-vaxxer for me to condemn?  If seeing minorities receive criticism from a liberal gets you off, I'll be happy to make your day.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I am going to go a different direction than spider.

If you are a white anti-vaxxer, you are paranoid and delusional.  Paranoid = irrational fear.

If you are an AA anti-vaxxer who is concerned that because of the color of your skin the government might use you for an experiment rather than give you the vax, your concerns are unfortunate, but your fear is not unfounded nor paranoia but understandable given Tuskney.

[Spider-Dan]

I think you mean "Tuskegee."

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I think you mean "Tuskegee."

Yeah, spelling has never been a strong point of mine.  But the point is there are valid reason for one group's hesitancy, but not the others.

[pondwater]

Would you like to find a black or Hispanic anti-vaxxer for me to condemn?  If seeing minorities receive criticism from a liberal gets you off, I'll be happy to make your day.

If you had the set of morals that you claim to have, you would automatically treat people equally based on their behavior and not the color of their skin or political affiliation. Black and Hispanic make up the largest two groups of what you people claim to be anti-vaxxers. Your position is laughable and hypocritical.

Yeah, spelling has never been a strong point of mine.  But the point is there are valid reason for one group's hesitancy, but not the others.

At the end of the day both groups are unvaccinated. If the goal it to get everyone vaccinated, none of what you just said even matters. You're just giving a pass to one group while vilifying another group based on race. That's pretty much textbook racism. You've both graduated to the next level, congratulations.

[Spider-Dan]

If you had the set of morals that you claim to have, you would automatically treat people equally based on their behavior and not the color of their skin or political affiliation.  Black and Hispanic make up the largest two groups of what you people claim to be anti-vaxxers.

They literally do not; conservatives are the largest group by a substantial margin.

Black and Hispanic people only make up the "largest groups" if you choose to ignore political affiliation as a category, and focus only on race instead.  "Political affiliation" is a behavior, but you don't like using that metric because it instantly exposes your cynicism on this topic.

[pondwater]

They literally do not; conservatives are the largest group by a substantial margin.

Black and Hispanic people only make up the "largest groups" if you choose to ignore political affiliation as a category, and focus only on race instead.  "Political affiliation" is a behavior, but you don't like using that metric because it instantly exposes your cynicism on this topic.

Not getting the vaccine is also a behavior and Black and Hispanic people are the two largest unvaccinated ethnicities in the country for their relative population levels. Those damn anti-vaxxers

[Fau Teixeira]

Not getting the vaccine is also a behavior and Black and Hispanic people are the two largest unvaccinated ethnicities in the country for their relative population levels. Those damn anti-vaxxers

Anyone that doesn't get a vaccine at this point regardless of ethnicity, national origin, religion or personal belief is an asshole in my book. They're just making life difficult for the rest of us who just want this pandemic to be over.

[Spider-Dan]

Anyone that doesn't get a vaccine at this point regardless of ethnicity, national origin, religion or personal belief is an asshole in my book. They're just making life difficult for the rest of us who just want this pandemic to be over.

Exactly.

But pondwater doesn't agree with that.  He just thinks we're hypocrites for criticizing ALL anti-vaxxers, instead of focusing just on the black and Hispanic ones.