Top 3 Houston Reporters: Watson to Miami This Week

[EDGECRUSHER]

This is a desperate panic move from a GM and coach that see themselves getting fired if they miss the playoffs.

This is buying a scratch-off because you don't have rent money.

I would agree 100% but lots of people are "reporting" this is being pushed by Ross and if that is true, I take back every nice thing I ever said about him. He is an idiot and needs to sell the team or have it taken from him. No one gets fired until the offseason at the earliest if we make this trade but the damage would have been already done. When you strike out in free agency two years in a row, you need a good draft and without first rounders, that's very hard to do.

[hordman]

I would agree 100% but lots of people are "reporting" this is being pushed by Ross and if that is true, I take back every nice thing I ever said about him. He is an idiot and needs to sell the team or have it taken from him. No one gets fired until the offseason at the earliest if we make this trade but the damage would have been already done. When you strike out in free agency two years in a row, you need a good draft and without first rounders, that's very hard to do.

If Dolphins pull this trade, I'm done with this Miami Football Team until Ross sells the team and Chris Grier is fired.

So fockin over this. Ross is a mental midget. He thinks cause he's made bling bling in Real Estate he can use that vast knowledge to run a football team. Yes, he's thrown money at the team, but he's definitely made mistakes with the people he's surrounded himself with and their decisions.

Fock, I've wasted the last 2 decades cheering this team on. At least when I was kid they were a playoff team and exciting to watch.

Sadly, I've passed this fandom onto my kid, he's invested

[hordman]

This is a desperate panic move from a GM and coach that see themselves getting fired if they miss the playoffs.

This is buying a scratch-off because you don't have rent money.

^^^ THIS

[EDGECRUSHER]

If Dolphins pull this trade, I'm done with this Miami Football Team until Ross sells the team and Chris Grier is fired.

So fockin over this. Ross is a mental midget. He thinks cause he's made bling bling in Real Estate he can use that vast knowledge to run a football team. Yes, he's thrown money at the team, but he's definitely made mistakes with the people he's surrounded himself with and their decisions.

Fock, I've wasted the last 2 decades cheering this team on. At least when I was kid they were a playoff team and exciting to watch.

Sadly, I've passed this fandom onto my kid, he's invested

You see it in all fields of business. Smart guy with money buys a restaurant and it fails spectacularly and they lose a fortune. Just because you are good at one thing, doesn't mean you are good at another. I appreciate Ross spending a lot of his own money on the stadium and wanting to win, that really is great in today's day of greedy ownership. However, he has no idea what he is doing. If he fired everyone today and asked a random fan on Twitter what to do, I am convinced it would be a smarter decision than what he had in mind.

[ArtieChokePhin]

Twitter is hitting this hard.  Lots of tweets that the rumors are completely false and someone stirred up the rumor mill to get click bait.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Twitter is hitting this hard.  Lots of tweets that the rumors are completely false and someone stirred up the rumor mill to get click bait.

One of the Dolphins beat reporters for ESPN said it was false but this is the type of stuff that the team should've denied publicly immediately. Team is already in shambles, don't want to entertain rumors that the one guy who is producing is going to be shipped out for a holdout. The fact that they didn't tells me these are true.

[Pappy13]

I'm going on record to say that I'm all FOR this trade. I actually don't think the Dolphins are in as bad of shape talent wise as most people think, they just haven't played up to their talent level. I believe that having a pro bowl QB on this team would be a good thing and I don't really feel that we would miss our 2022 and 2023 picks all that much. There's enough talent on this team to win, they haven't been doing it because they have been playing poorly, not because they don't have the talent to do it. Don't forget that Miami was missing possibly it's 2 best defensive players on Sunday and they were also missing several wide receivers. Yes, they lost to the Jaguars and have played poorly in their first 6 games. This year can't be salvaged but look at the long term benefits. The Dolphins still have a lot of young talent to cultivate. Maybe Flores and Grier are the problem and maybe they need to go to get to where we want to be, but Watson is a once in a lifetime type of proposition in my opinion and they should go for it. Look at the long term potential rather than the short term. It's not about this year anymore, it's about the next 10 years at this point we should be thinking about and Watson could be the QB for all 10 of them. I'm on board with that.

I'd also like to point out that the big difference between Miami this year and last year is the defense has been playing HORRIBLE. That can be fixed. How come no one is calling for the firing of the defensive coordinator Josh Boyer? Maybe he's the problem? Just because they had a decent year last year doesn't make him immune to scrutiny. The offense is actually better this year than last year in my opinion and Watson would only improve it in my opinion. Fire Boyer and replace him with someone competent and maybe just maybe even this year can be salvaged to some degree. Dolphins are not making the playoffs, but that doesn't mean they can't be playing like a playoff team come the end of the year.

I think a lot people are thinking with their hearts instead of their heads. That's been a problem here for a very long time. It's a business, there's no room here for sentimental BS. Get players that can play, I don't give a damn if they have "high character" or not. A good coach can coach around character defeciencies and winning solves everything.

[EDGECRUSHER]

^^^

I 100% feel the issue is coaching and a lot of people agree, so the problem is by trading for Watson you ensure that no one is going to get fired, maybe not even if they end the season with 4 wins. They all need to go and the sooner the better, not one coach deserves to stay put. Maybe the DC if he is not in charge anymore. Nothing but new coaches with no experience. I'd rather have a retread than this shit, just no Jeff Fisher.

We are 4-2 with competent coaching and since we played the Bucs and Bills, I think that is fair and a measure of our true talent. We are a good team, 1-5 is humiliating and heads need to roll and it ain't Tua's.

[Pappy13]

I 100% feel the issue is coaching and a lot of people agree, so the problem is by trading for Watson you ensure that no one is going to get fired, maybe not even if they end the season with 4 wins.

Who says? Flore's position is NOT guaranteed with a 4 win season. Maybe if they win 6 and if they win 5 of their remaining games then maybe just maybe Flores SHOULD be retained. You're over reacting. I understand your frustration but is it really any worse than the frustration we've felt for the last 2 decades?

[EDGECRUSHER]

Who says? Flore's position is NOT guaranteed with a 4 win season. Maybe if they win 6 and if they win 5 of their remaining games then maybe just maybe Flores SHOULD be retained. You're over reacting. I understand your frustration but is it really any worse than the frustration we've felt for the last 2 decades?

The fact that he hasn't been fired already makes me believe he won't be fired at all this year if we trade for Watson. Also, going 5-6 to end the year is also a disaster since the "easy" part of the schedule is coming up. This is a playoff team and we are all but eliminated right now, we shouldn't be celebrating or retaining coaches with a 6-11 record and not even our own 1st rounder.

Question for who, is there any record that would make you want to fire the head coach midseason?

[Pappy13]

Also, going 5-6 to end the year is also a disaster since the "easy" part of the schedule is coming up. This is a playoff team and we are all but eliminated right now, we shouldn't be celebrating or retaining coaches with a 6-11 record and not even our own 1st rounder.

This is a potential playoff team if everything goes right, but things have not gone right. In fact I would say that pretty much everything that could have gone wrong has gone wrong from injuries, to mental mistakes, to poor play calling, to poor play, to just plain dumb luck. It's all been a disaster. If the rest of the year goes like the first 6 games, they aren't winning 5 of the next 11 and Flores will be fired. However I tend to think that this can't keep up for the rest of the year and we'll start to see some semblance of that playoff potential and that's regardless of who the QB is.

Question for who, is there any record that would make you want to fire the head coach midseason?

It's not just about the record. Records can be deceiving and I think our record is deceiving. We are a better team than Jax and should not have lost and had we won I don't think you would be suggesting that we fire everyone. So yes, if I felt that the team was as bad as the record indicates then it's possible I would agree with firing everyone, but right now I don't feel that way. I don't think the Dolphins are better than the other 4 teams to whom they have lost. At best we are about even with Indy and LV, we aren't in the same league as Buffalo and Tampa. So we have lost 1 game to a team that we should not have lost and 1-2 in games that we had a decent shot at winning. That's bad, but it's not fire the whole coaching staff bad, at least not yet it isn't.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I don't know how the Texans have any leverage.  He is costing the Texans significant coin for no benefit.  And he is a risky buy.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I don't know how the Texans have any leverage.  He is costing the Texans significant coin for no benefit.  And he is a risky buy.

In a vacuum, they have no leverage for the reasons you suggested. However, for poorly run teams or contenders in need of a QB, there is a market. If Brady retired tomorrow, the Bucs would place a bid for Watson because they are built to win right now and have an excellent team. As far as the poorly run teams go......check the name of the website.

[Dolphster]

I'm not saying it is likely to happen, but in typical Dolphins fashion, I could see this happening.  Dolphins get Watson and before next season starts he goes off to prison or a lengthy NFL suspension and Tua goes on to become a star somewhere else. 

[EDGECRUSHER]

I'm not saying it is likely to happen, but in typical Dolphins fashion, I could see this happening.  Dolphins get Watson and before next season starts he goes off to prison or a lengthy NFL suspension and Tua goes on to become a star somewhere else. 

I don't understand how anyone is giving up on Tua already, especially after his last game where he was very good, even with no receivers or O-Line. This is just his 12th game, that's not even a full rookie seaosn and he has bad coaching. What the hell are we doing giving up on him after he improves every week? It's almost guaranteed he makes 4 Pro Bowls if we trade him now. Josh Allen didn't do shit until his 3rd year, Tannehill is doing great now that he has competent coaching and players. This isn't a Josh Rosen situation, kid needs a full year minimum before we throw in the towel.