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« Reply #75 on: October 27, 2021, 03:22:08 pm »

Houston reporter John McClain said the report is bogus and he never reported the Dolphins had worked out a deal. He said nothing has changed since last week.

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I'm being bombarded with messages saying I've reported a Watson deal to the Dolphins has been agreed on. I haven't reported that. Nothing's changed since last week. Dolphins -- and any other team Watson has approved -- want the legal issues resolved. That hasn't changed.

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« Reply #76 on: October 27, 2021, 03:47:10 pm »

^^^

Ok, now this makes sense. There is almost a 0% chance his legal issues and suspension issues get resolved by Monday so this should put that to rest. However, there definitely was something to this and we engaged Houston in trade talks. We probably wanted to see if they would sell him on the cheap and they said they wnated full value and hopefully, that's the end of that.
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« Reply #77 on: October 27, 2021, 05:15:39 pm »

^^^

Ok, now this makes sense. There is almost a 0% chance his legal issues and suspension issues get resolved by Monday so this should put that to rest. However, there definitely was something to this and we engaged Houston in trade talks. We probably wanted to see if they would sell him on the cheap and they said they wnated full value and hopefully, that's the end of that.

Agreed, I hope that's it.  Dolphins brass (maybe/maybe not input from Ross) was looking for Watson via a trade.  This team can move forward with Tua if they can surround him with a conistent OL play, play calling that works to his skill set and have the DEF get off their fockin ass

If this was to happen, and I hope it doesn't, I'm done with the team until A) Ross is no longer the owner and B) Watson would not be on the team

Yeah, i know he's an elite player, but right now looks like a crappy human.  And the optics for the fanbase (especially women) would be "We are doing anything we can to win, regardless of what type of player we sign".  That's a not a good look.
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« Reply #78 on: October 28, 2021, 07:39:21 am »

Agreed, I hope that's it.  Dolphins brass (maybe/maybe not input from Ross) was looking for Watson via a trade.  This team can move forward with Tua if they can surround him with a conistent OL play, play calling that works to his skill set and have the DEF get off their fockin ass

If this was to happen, and I hope it doesn't, I'm done with the team until A) Ross is no longer the owner and B) Watson would not be on the team

Yeah, i know he's an elite player, but right now looks like a crappy human.  And the optics for the fanbase (especially women) would be "We are doing anything we can to win, regardless of what type of player we sign".  That's a not a good look.

An analysis of Tua's most recent game that suggests there's nothing significant wrong with the offensive design or play-calling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdp42VnOano
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« Reply #79 on: October 28, 2021, 09:08:59 am »

Adam Beasley said this morning that Ross and company's refusal to deny like the other teams means they are doing something and he fully expects the Dolphins to pull the trigger prior to the deadline. At this point it's anyone's guess but I do know one thing. Tua has been the most disrespected QB we have ever had and yet he's likely the most accurate passer we've had since Dan Marino. If he wasn't such a good guy he'd have been asking for or forcing a trade.

It's kind of odd to me but Miami is most likely losing their 7-0 NHL hockey coach because he covered up a sexual assault 11 years ago and yet the Dolphins are dumping one of the best good performing character guys for a guy who has 22 sexual assault cases. You can't make this up.

If reports are correct Ross, Grier and company are just as tight as always and they do not believe he or Flores will lose their job. Apparently all of their bad coaching and player selections are Tua's fault so they are getting rid of him.
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« Reply #80 on: October 28, 2021, 09:15:45 am »

Adam Beasley said this morning that Ross and company's refusal to deny like the other teams means they are doing something and he fully expects the Dolphins to pull the trigger prior to the deadline. At this point it's anyone's guess but I do know one thing. Tua has been the most disrespected QB we have ever had and yet he's likely the most accurate passer we've had since Dan Marino. If he wasn't such a good guy he'd have been asking for or forcing a trade.

It's kind of odd to me but Miami is most likely losing their 7-0 NHL hockey coach because he covered up a sexual assault 11 years ago and yet the Dolphins are dumping one of the best good performing character guys for a guy who has 22 sexual assault cases. You can't make this up.

If reports are correct Ross, Grier and company are just as tight as always and they do not believe he or Flores will lose their job. Apparently all of their bad coaching and player selections are Tua's fault so they are getting rid of him.

No one is talking about where Tua is going if the Watson trade happens. Is he going to Houston as part of the trade package or are we actually keeping him on the roster?
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« Reply #81 on: October 28, 2021, 09:21:31 am »

No one is talking about where Tua is going if the Watson trade happens. Is he going to Houston as part of the trade package or are we actually keeping him on the roster?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tua-tagovailoa-trade-rumors-potential-landing-spots-for-dolphins-qb-ahead-of-2021-nfl-trade-deadline/

Washington, Detroit, Denver or get this ... New Orleans. Can you imagine Tua winning a Super bowl with New Orleans ala Drew Brees? Good grief!
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« Reply #82 on: October 28, 2021, 09:40:57 am »

An analysis of Tua's most recent game that suggests there's nothing significant wrong with the offensive design or play-calling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdp42VnOano

In terms of game plan, I thought last weeks game was pretty decent... BUT the Falcons also played a lot of deep coverage all game, which made taking the quick underneath stuff easy (and we still didn't win). Additionally, *any* game plan is going to look a lot better against a team ranked among the worst in the league against both the pass and the run than it would against even just an average team.
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« Reply #83 on: October 28, 2021, 10:26:03 am »

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tua-tagovailoa-trade-rumors-potential-landing-spots-for-dolphins-qb-ahead-of-2021-nfl-trade-deadline/

Washington, Detroit, Denver or get this ... New Orleans. Can you imagine Tua winning a Super bowl with New Orleans ala Drew Brees? Good grief!

The last two would be great landing spots for him. Tua becoming a Lion and winning a few games while making us the #1 overall pick would be so beautiful and disgusting at the same time.
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« Reply #84 on: October 28, 2021, 07:43:36 pm »

I like Tua, but if he goes somewhere else, I want to be able to root for him like I do Tannehill. So he can go anywhere outside of the AFC East except the Saints. Fuck the Saints and the rest of the AFC East...
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« Reply #85 on: October 29, 2021, 02:00:53 pm »

Flores said today that barring injury, Tua is the starter for the rest of 2021. He can always plead ignorance if they trade for Watson by saying "I'm not the GM" but this seems pretty final. Of course, this statement may be more because a trade won't happen rather than confidence in Tua but this helps put the rumors to rest.

They won't rest fully until after the deadline but this looks done until the offseason.
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« Reply #86 on: October 29, 2021, 02:46:46 pm »

When asked he answered "yes". It wasn't glowing support. They have more than made it known that he is their QB until something better comes along which now looks more likely the offseason.

After getting rid of the Florida Panthers coach for covering up sexual assault 11 years ago many people in South Florida are hoping it will cool the Jets on Watson. It would be quite embarrassing if they moved forward without him being found innocent. 
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« Reply #87 on: October 29, 2021, 03:02:08 pm »

Just think about all the words that have been wasted in the media and online forums speculating about something that was never going to happen from Day 1.  As stupid as the Dolphins are, even they aren't stupid enough to get rid of a #5 overall draft pick QB who is only in his second year and is getting better and showing promise and replace him with a QB who has at least some chance of facing criminal charges and a very good chance of being suspended by the NFL.  AND to give up a boatload of draft picks for the QB who may be going to jail and will most likely get suspended by the NFL at some point.  The Dolphins MAY have discussed this with the Texans but only within the context of their willingness to listen to an offer just in case the Texans gave up Watson at a fire sale price.  But if they ever had serious discussions with the Texans than they are by far the dumbest organization ever in any professional sport. 
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« Reply #88 on: October 29, 2021, 03:20:08 pm »

Just think about all the words that have been wasted in the media and online forums speculating about something that was never going to happen from Day 1.  As stupid as the Dolphins are, even they aren't stupid enough to get rid of a #5 overall draft pick QB who is only in his second year and is getting better and showing promise and replace him with a QB who has at least some chance of facing criminal charges and a very good chance of being suspended by the NFL.  AND to give up a boatload of draft picks for the QB who may be going to jail and will most likely get suspended by the NFL at some point.  The Dolphins MAY have discussed this with the Texans but only within the context of their willingness to listen to an offer just in case the Texans gave up Watson at a fire sale price.  But if they ever had serious discussions with the Texans than they are by far the dumbest organization ever in any professional sport. 

To be fair, we just traded away the rights to pick up any of our Top 3 draft choices for a 2023 1st rounder likely in the 20's. So, we are really stupid.
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« Reply #89 on: October 29, 2021, 03:32:08 pm »

Just think about all the words that have been wasted in the media and online forums speculating about something that was never going to happen from Day 1.
Make no mistake that if Houston were to lower their trade demands, Watson would already be in Miami. That's a given. Give Houston credit, they have stuck by their guns and are willing to wait till someone meets their trade demands even if that means it's next year and sooner or later, someone is going to do it.
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