Top 3 Houston Reporters: Watson to Miami This Week

[ArtieChokePhin]

I don't understand how anyone is giving up on Tua already, especially after his last game where he was very good, even with no receivers or O-Line. This is just his 12th game, that's not even a full rookie seaosn and he has bad coaching. What the hell are we doing giving up on him after he improves every week? It's almost guaranteed he makes 4 Pro Bowls if we trade him now. Josh Allen didn't do shit until his 3rd year, Tannehill is doing great now that he has competent coaching and players. This isn't a Josh Rosen situation, kid needs a full year minimum before we throw in the towel.

This guy Neal Driscoll who used to write for PFN wrote today that there are certain people in the front office who are rooting against Tua because they wanted Herbert.  What the fuck is that shit??   You're rooting to possibly lose your job??

[EDGECRUSHER]

This guy Neal Driscoll who used to write for PFN wrote today that there are certain people in the front office who are rooting against Tua because they wanted Herbert.  What the fuck is that shit??   You're rooting to possibly lose your job??

Tua failing doesn't mean Herbert is coming to Miami. Besides, Herbert was supported and allowed to throw the ball. Tua was given a check down offense and then removed and then put back in and then given a pair of idiot OC's and has had to deal with Watson rumors for almost a year now. The latest of which the Dolphins franchise refuses to deny publicly so you know they're real because even the players are saying it's a distraction and still nothing.

If you wanted to purposely ruin a QB's development, what would we have done differently?

[Dolphster]

Tannehill 2.0    I think the most frustrating thing for me as a fan is the fact that it seems like the franchise just keeps making the same mistakes over and over.  And it seems that even when they change coaches, GMs, etc. they still keep making the same mistakes as their predecessors.   We have been complaining for two decades about the same things like poor Offensive Line play, poor development of players who go on to be stars on other teams, etc.   The people in charge keep changing but somehow the problems are always still the same. 

[EDGECRUSHER]

Tannehill 2.0    I think the most frustrating thing for me as a fan is the fact that it seems like the franchise just keeps making the same mistakes over and over.  And it seems that even when they change coaches, GMs, etc. they still keep making the same mistakes as their predecessors.   We have been complaining for two decades about the same things like poor Offensive Line play, poor development of players who go on to be stars on other teams, etc.   The people in charge keep changing but somehow the problems are always still the same. 

It's hard to blame coaching for the O-Line since we have had like 9 O-Line coaches the past decade but we are using good draft picks on players and every now and then trading for and signing good guys. Once they get here, it's like it doesn't even matter. Even when some guys make the Pro Bowl like Pouncey, doesn't matter.

I think it has to be the organizational attitude or something. Maybe we are just too soft. Not saying be a caveman like Urban Meyer and do college drills like Oklahoma Rolls but it has to be something. Much eaiser to blame the philosophy and organization than analyze 36 failed draft picks and signings.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I really doubt anyone employed by the Dolphins has said, "I want Tau to fail".  However, those scouts that wanted Hebert over Tau, may very well be saying, "I told ya so."

[EDGECRUSHER]

I really doubt anyone employed by the Dolphins has said, "I want Tau to fail".  However, those scouts that wanted Hebert over Tau, may very well be saying, "I told ya so."

I can see that, although if they overrode your advice to draft Herbert, wanting Tua to fail would probably mean more power within the organization so I could see wanting it.

[stinkfish]

Any chance that this trade talk is all just smoke? It's really just so unbelievable.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Any chance that this trade talk is all just smoke? It's really just so unbelievable.

Flores said today that Tua is the QB but it took WAY too long to say that. Players spoke out yesterday that this was a distraction. I find it hard, but not impossible to believe the team would wait this long to deny it if it was false. It's certainly possible the rumors are false but I don't think so. This is either Grier trying to save his job or Ross being 81 and not knowing what to do to win a Superbowl.

[Tenshot13]

Flores said today that Tua is the QB but it took WAY too long to say that. Players spoke out yesterday that this was a distraction. I find it hard, but not impossible to believe the team would wait this long to deny it if it was false. It's certainly possible the rumors are false but I don't think so. This is either Grier trying to save his job or Ross being 81 and not knowing what to do to win a Superbowl.

Flores and the Ross have dismissed this rumor multiple times at this point, yet the media doesn't really focus on that.

[Dolphster]

Flores and the Ross have dismissed this rumor multiple times at this point, yet the media doesn't really focus on that.

As I find myself saying pretty often these days, "In our society, the truth has nothing to do with it."

[Downunder Dolphan]

Flores said today that Tua is the QB but it took WAY too long to say that. Players spoke out yesterday that this was a distraction. I find it hard, but not impossible to believe the team would wait this long to deny it if it was false. It's certainly possible the rumors are false but I don't think so.

The bolded bit to me is a worry. If the rumor coming out of Houston was all BS, then this same playing group who got behind Tua last year would all know it and not bat an eyelid. Surely they would be much more concerned with their own hideous lack of form to find this any kind of a distraction?

[Pappy13]

The team has a LOT of distractions they are dealing with, not just this Deshaun Watson trade. It's up to the coaches to get players to focus on games. If that's not happening it's a failure on the coaching staff, end of story.

[EDGECRUSHER]

You know, I just thought about this. Watson has a no trade which is why he hasn't been moved yet and Miami was allegedly always his #1 because we are a young team coming off a 10 win season.

However, we are now 1-6 and all but guaranteed to be 1-7. Our coaching is a mess. Our GM sucks. My potentially new "star" wide receiver can't stay on the field. Why would I want to go to Miami? Especially if they are going to have no good draft picks until 2025?

[Dolphster]

The thing that I keep coming back to as to why I don't think this is going to happen is that there isn't really any upside for the Dolphins to make this trade.  Which given their horrendous history, maybe that makes the trade MORE likely to happen.  LOL    Tua is still an unknown quantity at this point.  He has shown that he has the physical talent to be a very good QB (if he can stay healthy).  Like today, both of his interceptions were mental mistakes.  Some guys never pick up the mental aspect of the game.  But this early in his career there is no way to know if he will get better with his decisions.  But the football talent is there.  The next part of the equation that makes no sense is that if even if Watson is cleared and never gets arrested OR suspended, will his presence make the Dolphins a playoff team or even measurably better?  QB play is not why the Dolphins are 1-6.   The Texans were shitty with Watson no matter how great he played.  If he were the Dolphins QB, the Dolphins would also be shitty no matter how great he played.  And if you give up a boatload of draft picks, you just ensured they will continue to be shitty for the foreseeable future even if you get Watson in return AND he doesn't get arrested or suspended.  There is almost ZERO upside for the Dolphins to make this trade.  And it would have the potential to become would be known for decades as the stupidest trade in the history of football. 

[Pappy13]

You know, I just thought about this. Watson has a no trade which is why he hasn't been moved yet and Miami was allegedly always his #1 because we are a young team coming off a 10 win season.

However, we are now 1-6 and all but guaranteed to be 1-7. Our coaching is a mess. Our GM sucks. My potentially new "star" wide receiver can't stay on the field. Why would I want to go to Miami? Especially if they are going to have no good draft picks until 2025?

Cause it's better than Houston.