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« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2021, 08:38:35 am »
We have busted horribly bad on many picks in the last two draft classes and free agency. If we now take Watson and give up other resources I will have a really hard time supporting this team. Tua is far from the problem with this team and he's getting better all the time. Sacrificing more for a QB that may or may not be able to play just to say you have a "franchise QB" would be the dumbest thing we have done ... and we lead the way in dumb decisions.  
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« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2021, 09:43:18 am »
Quote from: CF DolFan on October 25, 2021, 08:38:35 am
We have busted horribly bad on many picks in the last two draft classes and free agency. If we now take Watson and give up other resources I will have a really hard time supporting this team. Tua is far from the problem with this team and he's getting better all the time. Sacrificing more for a QB that may or may not be able to play just to say you have a "franchise QB" would be the dumbest thing we have done ... and we lead the way in dumb decisions.  

IMO it's WAY too early to judge the last two draft classes.  One class missed out on all of preseason last year, and we are only (7) games into the season for the second draft class.
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« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2021, 10:06:06 am »
Quote from: masterfins on October 25, 2021, 09:43:18 am
IMO it's WAY too early to judge the last two draft classes.  One class missed out on all of preseason last year, and we are only (7) games into the season for the second draft class.
Our first round picks have been questionable at best. Noah can't make a game day roster when we have undrafted free agents playing his position. Austin Jackson is so bad at the position he was drafted for that he's playing LG and struggling to do that. Jalean Phiilips completely disappears. Waddle is solid but is being underutilized in the short passing game. The fact two other guys we could have had are breaking records makes the Waddle pick look bad. Pitts and Chase are looking like super stars already. Tua is actually getting better. Unfortunately that guy in San Diego is making his pick look bad by any measure. Can you imagine if we only had one pick each year because that's what we are getting out of those 5 picks.

Add in our free agent signings and we are at the bottom of the list for talent selections which our record shows.

2020
5   Tua Tagovailoa   QB   Alabama   
18   Austin Jackson   OT   USC   
30   Noah Igbinoghene   CB   Auburn   [v]
2021   
6   Jaylen Waddle   WR   Alabama   
18   Jaelan Phillips   DE   Miami (FL)   
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« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2021, 10:33:10 am »
Waddle at 6 is a solid pick, the kid is very good. Trading back from 3 and missing out on Chase and Pitts while only getting a 2023 1st rounder is the terrible part.

Phillips gets better every week so judging solely on the picks in 2021, I am fine with that.
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« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2021, 10:48:23 am »
FWIW, The Eagles have 3 first rounders in 2022 with two of them likely in the Top 10. No one can top their offer and 2 first rounders in the Top 10 would probably get the job done if the Texans get their heads out of their asses.
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« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2021, 11:54:06 am »
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FWIW, The Eagles have 3 first rounders in 2022 with two of them likely in the Top 10. No one can top their offer and 2 first rounders in the Top 10 would probably get the job done if the Texans get their heads out of their asses.

Please let the Eagles outbid us.
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« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2021, 12:01:43 pm »
Quote from: fyo on October 25, 2021, 11:54:06 am
Please let the Eagles outbid us.

I think our terrible season is helping them outbid us.
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« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2021, 12:46:54 pm »
Quote from: EDGECRUSHER on October 25, 2021, 12:01:43 pm
I think our terrible season is helping them outbid us.

I'm more worried that leadership will see our terrible season as reason to bid more.
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« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2021, 01:01:05 pm »
Quote from: fyo on October 25, 2021, 12:46:54 pm
I'm more worried that leadership will see our terrible season as reason to bid more.

Certainly not an unfounded worry, but Philly offering 3 first rounders for 2022 alone, not to mention 2 of them probably being Top 10 is much greater than us offering 5 first rounders since they would be well into the future whose value is uncertain. As dumb as we are, I can't see us doing even 4 first rounders and that would take us into 2024. That's a long wait if Houston wants to rebuild.
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« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2021, 01:15:24 pm »
At this point, all we are playing for is to have a better record than SF. If I'm not mistaken, we have their 1st round pick for the next 2 years. Therefore, we need them to do as poorly as possible.
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« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2021, 01:15:32 pm »
Quote from: EDGECRUSHER on October 25, 2021, 01:01:05 pm
Certainly not an unfounded worry, but Philly offering 3 first rounders for 2022 alone, not to mention 2 of them probably being Top 10 is much greater than us offering 5 first rounders since they would be well into the future whose value is uncertain. As dumb as we are, I can't see us doing even 4 first rounders and that would take us into 2024. That's a long wait if Houston wants to rebuild.

Do you have a link to anything recent on the Eagles sand Watson? Will he even accept being traded to Philly?
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« Reply #56 on: October 25, 2021, 01:34:29 pm »
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Do you have a link to anything recent on the Eagles sand Watson? Will he even accept being traded to Philly?

Nothing recent other than the reporters talking about Watson have mentioned several teams involved and one of them are the Eagles. Hurts has done nothing to show he is the one with half of his stats coming in garbage time.

If the Texans tell Watson the Eagles want him, I think he will accept it. He isn't even playing now, how much longer can he be happy sitting out games? Philly sucks but it's a major city(if he wants that)and the NFC East isn't exactly a juggernaut. Not the worst location as long as he is content with their subhuman fanbase.
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« Reply #57 on: October 25, 2021, 02:57:36 pm »
Quote from: EDGECRUSHER on October 25, 2021, 10:33:10 am
Waddle at 6 is a solid pick, the kid is very good. Trading back from 3 and missing out on Chase and Pitts while only getting a 2023 1st rounder is the terrible part.

Phillips gets better every week so judging solely on the picks in 2021, I am fine with that.
Phillips only had 15 snaps against Falcons with zero tackles, assists, and pressures
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« Reply #58 on: October 25, 2021, 03:26:43 pm »
Quote from: CF DolFan on October 25, 2021, 02:57:36 pm
Phillips only had 15 snaps against Falcons with zero tackles, assists, and pressures

He was getting better before that. I have to ask, why is our first rounder not on the field for almost every defensive play? What the hell is our coaching staff doing?
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« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2021, 03:28:01 pm »
More reports that Watson is open to being traded to multiple teams now. Either the truth or Houston lying to get a better offer. Panthers in the mix too now that Darnold fell back to Earth.

I really think he is traded before the deadline but I don't think it will be to us.
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