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« Reply #90 on: October 29, 2021, 03:38:28 pm »

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« Reply #91 on: October 29, 2021, 03:41:36 pm »

Make no mistake that if Houston were to lower their trade demands, Watson would already be in Miami. That's a given.

Which is why I said in the very same post, "The Dolphins MAY have discussed this with the Texans but only within the context of their willingness to listen to an offer just in case the Texans gave up Watson at a fire sale price."    If it cost us a 2023 4th Round Pick, I'd make the trade too. 
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« Reply #92 on: October 29, 2021, 03:43:16 pm »

To be fair, we just traded away the rights to pick up any of our Top 3 draft choices for a 2023 1st rounder likely in the 20's. So, we are really stupid.

LOL, valid point!
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« Reply #93 on: October 29, 2021, 03:48:31 pm »

Which is why I said in the very same post, "The Dolphins MAY have discussed this with the Texans but only within the context of their willingness to listen to an offer just in case the Texans gave up Watson at a fire sale price."    If it cost us a 2023 4th Round Pick, I'd make the trade too.  
And I'm telling you that it wouldn't have taken a fire sale to get Watson here, all it would have taken was for Houston to lower the price from 3 #1 picks to 2 and he'd had have been on his way to Miami. Houston wouldn't budge.
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« Reply #94 on: October 29, 2021, 03:51:17 pm »

And I'm telling you that it wouldn't have taken a fire sale to get Watson here, all it would have taken was for Houston to lower the price from 3 #1 picks to 2 and he'd had have been on his way to Miami.

And I'm telling you that both your comment and mine are purely conjecture on both of our parts.  LOL   It isn't as if this is a quantifiable comment from either of us.  It is just our opinions.  How can you state that as a fact?  Did you talk to Grier and he told you that he offered Houston two #1s and Houston said, "Nope, three #1s or the deal is off."?   
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« Reply #95 on: October 29, 2021, 03:54:27 pm »

And I'm telling you that both your comment and mine are purely conjecture on both of our parts.
Yep, opinion for opinion.
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« Reply #96 on: October 31, 2021, 02:02:39 pm »

All but official that Watson is staying with Houston, who will continue to sit him the whole year and try again next offseason. They think they will get their asking price after a whole year away from the league because they are stupid.
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« Reply #97 on: October 31, 2021, 04:59:39 pm »

An analysis of Tua's most recent game that suggests there's nothing significant wrong with the offensive design or play-calling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdp42VnOano
Welcome back, Dolfanalyst!

We missed your QB commentary over the last 4 years.  As I recall, last time you were here you were adamant that Ryan Tannehill was an unsalvageable bust.  Shortly thereafter, he was traded to TEN and immediately led the league in passer rating and ANY/A, while winning two playoff games and making the Pro Bowl.

So what's your opinion on Tua now?
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« Reply #98 on: October 31, 2021, 05:41:49 pm »

Welcome back, Dolfanalyst!

We missed your QB commentary over the last 4 years.  As I recall, last time you were here you were adamant that Ryan Tannehill was an unsalvageable bust.  Shortly thereafter, he was traded to TEN and immediately led the league in passer rating and ANY/A, while winning two playoff games and making the Pro Bowl.

So what's your opinion on Tua now?

My position was that Tannehill was average, not a bust.

There are a number of surrounding factors that helped Tannehill perform better than usual for roughly a season and a half with Tennessee.  If you've noticed, he's come crashing back to the average level this year because those surrounding factors are difficult for teams to sustain from year to year in the NFL.

Tua, who knows.  Not enough of a sample size to know either way at this point.  But he's certainly not lighting the world on fire.
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« Reply #99 on: November 02, 2021, 02:34:24 pm »

Reports are coming out that Miami is not going to trade for Watson
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« Reply #100 on: November 02, 2021, 02:39:23 pm »

Reports are coming out that Miami is not going to trade for Watson
No reason to for Texas. After the season Miami won't be their only suitors so the price will likely go up again. They can't use the picks before then anyway so might as well hold out unless Miami gives up the farm.
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« Reply #101 on: November 02, 2021, 02:40:55 pm »

Reports are coming out that Miami is not going to trade for Watson

Gee what a surprise.  I don't understand why the Texans don't just play him, it really isn't going to hurt their season at this point.  If he fakes an injury or purposely plays like shit that hurts his chances.  Plus it puts Goodell in the media spotlight to get the suspension out of the way, and open up an easier trade route.
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« Reply #102 on: November 02, 2021, 02:50:05 pm »

No reason to for Texas. After the season Miami won't be their only suitors so the price will likely go up again. They can't use the picks before then anyway so might as well hold out unless Miami gives up the farm.

I don't think it's going to go up at all, they once again overplayed their hand. Now, Watson will be at least a year removed from being on the field and who knows what happens with his legal issues? I think they will wish they took 3 first rounders for him.
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« Reply #103 on: November 02, 2021, 04:21:07 pm »

ESPN's Adam Schefter says that Miami was doing their due dilligence for Watson and Houston even gave Ross permission to speak to DeShaun last night. The problem was compensation, the Texans wanted a ransom for him and if they didn't get it when he was playing, they weren't getting anything close when he wasn't.

So, this puts to bed two things:

1) No Watson to Miami this season

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2) We were absolutely trying to dump Tua and are a horrible franchise that needs new owners
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« Reply #104 on: November 04, 2021, 09:11:33 am »

And now Chris Grier confirmed it yesterday to the media that they were going after Watson. Didn't give too many details but he confirmed it.

Garbage franchise. I'm out for 2022 if they don't fire everyone, I'm not going to watch them start 1-7 again, fire them midseason in 2022 and say "whoopsie". Do it before the season starts or there is no season.
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