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« Reply #90 on: March 10, 2022, 07:21:18 am »

No, but he has time. He probably wants o work out a long term deal before going that route as it could lead to bad blood and both sides really lose. Miami doesn't want to pay him $18 Million as a WR and can rescind the tag and Gesicki might miss out on the free agency fury, especially with Godwin and Adams getting franchised.

I could be wrong on a few dates but a long term deal at a TE salary is best for both parties.

And that's where the rubber will meet the road, because I'm not sure McDaniel and company see a viable role for Gesicki beyond a potential one-year "rental."  I suspect they want their tight ends to be blockers and pass-catchers, and their wide receivers to be YAC guys.  Gesicki fits neither of those roles.

In fact here's a very thorough article on how the recent 49ers' offenses have used YAC receivers:

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/by-the-numbers/2021/5/20/22444495/how-to-build-an-aaron-rodgers-out-of-yac-and-mediocre-quarterbacks
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« Reply #91 on: March 10, 2022, 07:49:39 am »

of the 438 in the slot, is he still on the line of scrimmage where he would be lined up normally as a TE?  There might be a loop hole there where he's still technically lined up as a TE, he's just off the line a bit.  Just a thought.

And that's where Miami will win the grievance
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« Reply #92 on: March 10, 2022, 08:44:40 am »

And that's where the rubber will meet the road, because I'm not sure McDaniel and company see a viable role for Gesicki beyond a potential one-year "rental."  I suspect they want their tight ends to be blockers and pass-catchers, and their wide receivers to be YAC guys.  Gesicki fits neither of those roles.

In fact here's a very thorough article on how the recent 49ers' offenses have used YAC receivers:

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/by-the-numbers/2021/5/20/22444495/how-to-build-an-aaron-rodgers-out-of-yac-and-mediocre-quarterbacks

But then why even use the tag on him? I know they can rescind it if he doesn't sign it quickly, but it seems like a waste of time. I think they want him at Tight End money and that's it. This gives them leverage by basically hurting his Free Agency market by tying him up.
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« Reply #93 on: March 10, 2022, 09:56:53 am »

And that's where the rubber will meet the road, because I'm not sure McDaniel and company see a viable role for Gesicki beyond a potential one-year "rental."  I suspect they want their tight ends to be blockers and pass-catchers, and their wide receivers to be YAC guys.  Gesicki fits neither of those roles.

In fact here's a very thorough article on how the recent 49ers' offenses have used YAC receivers:

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/by-the-numbers/2021/5/20/22444495/how-to-build-an-aaron-rodgers-out-of-yac-and-mediocre-quarterbacks
That's the 49ers offense.  When he was a coach at Washington they used Reed I think it was who's similar to Gesicki and got a lot of production out of him.  He had a lot of success with the 49ers, but I don't think he's going to turn our offense into a carbon copy of the 49ers offense.
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« Reply #94 on: March 10, 2022, 02:54:41 pm »

That's the 49ers offense.  When he was a coach at Washington they used Reed I think it was who's similar to Gesicki and got a lot of production out of him.  He had a lot of success with the 49ers, but I don't think he's going to turn our offense into a carbon copy of the 49ers offense.
That's exactly what McDaniel said. Just like in the case of RG3 ... they geared the offense to his strengths and didn't force him to be something he is not.
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« Reply #95 on: March 10, 2022, 03:04:38 pm »

That's exactly what McDaniel said. Just like in the case of RG3 ... they geared the offense to his strengths and didn't force him to be something he is not.

Which is how it should be done. You don't turn Tom Brady into a scrambler and complain when it doesn't work out right.
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« Reply #96 on: March 10, 2022, 03:10:07 pm »

Which is how it should be done. You don't turn Tom Brady into a scrambler and complain when it doesn't work out right.
Exactly. Shula adapted to a certain degree and some coaches do but if McDaniel really is about getting the best out of good players than he is about forcing his scheme than he will be a first for this league. It will be interesting to see how this idea unfolds ... at least to me.
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« Reply #97 on: March 10, 2022, 05:20:15 pm »

This is definitely a guy to target at right guard:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33468913/titans-release-pro-bowl-g-rodger-saffold-per-source
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« Reply #98 on: March 11, 2022, 08:38:40 am »


Hunt is our best guard. He did well at RT in his limited time in 2020, you think if we signed this guy or a top RG we can switch Hunt to RT to address that situation? I would take a turnstile over Jesse Davis at this point.
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« Reply #99 on: March 11, 2022, 12:11:52 pm »

Hunt is our best guard. He did well at RT in his limited time in 2020, you think if we signed this guy or a top RG we can switch Hunt to RT to address that situation? I would take a turnstile over Jesse Davis at this point.

Sorry, meant to say left guard for Saffold, which is where he plays.
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« Reply #100 on: March 11, 2022, 02:18:12 pm »

I wonder what happened to Soloman Kindley. They talked about him being a mauler his first year and then refused to play him last year no matter how poorly the unit played. I have to belive there was something between him and a coach or coaches. Hopefully he (and others) succeeds with the new guys.

BTW ... the Dolphns just placed a second round tender on Nik Needham.
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« Reply #101 on: March 11, 2022, 02:35:07 pm »

I wonder what happened to Soloman Kindley. They talked about him being a mauler his first year and then refused to play him last year no matter how poorly the unit played. I have to belive there was something between him and a coach or coaches. Hopefully he (and others) succeeds with the new guys.

BTW ... the Dolphns just placed a second round tender on Nik Needham.

Kindley did relatively well in his rookie year, certain well enough to play on last year's unit as it was atrocious. I have no idea what happened but I agree that it had to be more than just his performance.

Once again, everyone forgot how to play on the O-Line in one offseason? Not buying it.
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« Reply #102 on: March 13, 2022, 09:38:01 am »

How about this for an offensive line:

LT Terron Armstead
LG Rodger Saffold
C Ryan Jensen
RG Robert Hunt
RT Liam Eichenberg
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« Reply #103 on: March 13, 2022, 08:15:45 pm »

How about this for an offensive line:

LT Terron Armstead
LG Rodger Saffold
C Ryan Jensen
RG Robert Hunt
RT Liam Eichenberg

I'm pretty wary of paying top dollar for free agent offensive lineman - for some reason it rarely seems to work out for Miami, we seem to get them at the wrong end of their career when they are near retirement or looking for party money. Branden Albert we got way too late (to the extent he was shown up by Tunsil as a rookie), and Incongnito was a disaster.

After just two seasons are we going to throw the towel in on Kindley and Jackson? Jackson has been a disappointment, but he was drafted as a raw prospect. Kindley was very solid at guard in his rookie season starting next to Hunt on the right side of the line - no idea WTF happened last year to prevent him from playing. If we get those guys playing well along with Eichenberg, that's most of the positions filled, plus they are young and cheap! It would leave is just the Center position to (finally) address.
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« Reply #104 on: March 14, 2022, 07:59:57 am »

I'm pretty wary of paying top dollar for free agent offensive lineman - for some reason it rarely seems to work out for Miami, we seem to get them at the wrong end of their career when they are near retirement or looking for party money. Branden Albert we got way too late (to the extent he was shown up by Tunsil as a rookie), and Incongnito was a disaster.

After just two seasons are we going to throw the towel in on Kindley and Jackson? Jackson has been a disappointment, but he was drafted as a raw prospect. Kindley was very solid at guard in his rookie season starting next to Hunt on the right side of the line - no idea WTF happened last year to prevent him from playing. If we get those guys playing well along with Eichenberg, that's most of the positions filled, plus they are young and cheap! It would leave is just the Center position to (finally) address.

The problem with players like Jackson and Kindley is that they were drafted at spots where there is a history of a significant percentage of busts historically.  Relatively late first-round left tackles and fourth-round guards are nowhere near guaranteed to be adequate players.  There shouldn't be high expectations for either one of them.
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