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« Reply #180 on: March 23, 2022, 04:45:19 pm »

I'm starting to wonder what position(s) Miami will be focusing on for the draft.  They've already gone after RB's, OL, and WR's (although not top tier guys) in free agency.  It almost makes me wonder if Miami will save up some draft capital for next year should Tua not be lights out this year.

Well with the acquisition of Tyreek Hill for primarily Miami's 1st and 2nd pick, I guess Miami isn't planning on drafting any players with "starter" ability right off the bat.
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« Reply #181 on: March 23, 2022, 04:53:20 pm »

Well with the acquisition of Tyreek Hill for primarily Miami's 1st and 2nd pick, I guess Miami isn't planning on drafting any players with "starter" ability right off the bat.

Best player available unless it's a WR or QB. Hell, might even trade the pick for 2023 picks if no one we love is there for us.
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« Reply #182 on: March 23, 2022, 05:28:55 pm »

It's clear what Grier's philosophy for 2022 is:

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« Reply #183 on: March 23, 2022, 06:07:39 pm »

I honestly don't care about the draft to an extent. We've done more for this team in this offseason than we ever do in the draft.

Signing Terron Armstead
Trading for Tyreek Hill
Re-signing DE Emmanuel Ogbah
Re-signing TE Mike Gesicki
Signing Raheem Mostert
Signing RB Chase Edmonds
Re-signing TE Durham Smythe
Signing G Connor Williams
Signing FB Alec Ingold
Signing QB Teddy Bridgewater
Extending a second-round tender on restricted free agent Nik Needham


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« Reply #184 on: March 23, 2022, 06:30:32 pm »

There are many stories about things looking pretty ugly until the process is fully layed out and everything is great. Well according to Travis Wingfield the Laremy Tunsil trade has now produced Jaylen Waddle, Tyreek Hill, and Jevon Holland…and there’s still a 2023 first rounder to go. Chris Grier is looking pretty good these days.
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« Reply #185 on: March 23, 2022, 06:47:04 pm »

I wouldn't credit the Tunsil trade for Hill.  Given that MIA had to trade away its own first this year to move back up and get Waddle, SF's first that was traded for Hill (along with 4 other MIA picks) is the rough equivalent of MIA's own trade capital.

Basically, if you think of the Hill trade as strictly involving MIA's assets, it's a lot easier to then think of the Waddle trade as being more directly a transfer of assets gained from the trade with SF.

In any case, I can see the Tunsil trade as responsible for Waddle OR Hill, but not really both.  There were too many MIA picks lost in the transactions to attribute the trade just to Tunsil.
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« Reply #186 on: March 23, 2022, 07:49:27 pm »

We still have plenty of needs. Our first pick will probably be best available player - if one of the top linebackers are at our first pick 29 (Lloyd or Dean) we should not blink and scoop them up. If we want a quality WR, we will probably have to trade up. Other than that, if we haven't addressed the center position that could also be a real possibility.

McDaniel will probably want depth at the RB position for rotations, and with Duke gone our second pick at 50 should find one of the top candidates to slot in.

Wow, what a difference 24 hours makes - I did say we would have to probably trade up to get a top WR, and we basically detonated this years draft to do it!

I have to admit feeling just a little torn by it - getting a top WR to go with Waddle was a want, and pick 29 was such a low place to start the draft this year so there are even less guarantees than usual. But there was also a good chance we could have finally drafted for the LB and RB positions with some of the very top prospects, and relatively cheaply. That said I can't blame them cashing in those chips for an elite WR that is already a proven commodity. At least we still have two firsts next year if there are still glaring deficiencies.

 
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« Reply #187 on: March 23, 2022, 08:11:49 pm »

I honestly don't care about the draft to an extent. We've done more for this team in this offseason than we ever do in the draft.

Signing Terron Armstead
Trading for Tyreek Hill
Re-signing DE Emmanuel Ogbah
Re-signing TE Mike Gesicki
Signing Raheem Mostert
Signing RB Chase Edmonds
Re-signing TE Durham Smythe
Signing G Connor Williams
Signing FB Alec Ingold
Signing QB Teddy Bridgewater
Extending a second-round tender on restricted free agent Nik Needham




Absolutely. I love having lots of draft picks but you have to be realistic with them. If you don't have a Top 5 pick, it can be a crapshoot. Who were we going to get with our 1st and 2nd rounder this year better than Tyreek Hill? Even combined with the other picks, unlikely they have the same impact. We have three 1st rounders in 2020 and absolutely blew the last 2 and hopefully nailed the first one.

We still have two 1st rounders in 2023 right now, we're not tapped out.
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« Reply #188 on: March 24, 2022, 02:49:05 pm »

Barry Jackson is reporting that several teams have shown interest in Parker, mainly the Eagles. He is as good as gone, only thing left is the compensation. I really have no idea, a 4th rounder would be nice I guess. We don't have any leverage since he would be on the bench if not traded.
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« Reply #189 on: March 24, 2022, 03:07:15 pm »

^^^ Edge, you wrote in the Tyreek Hill thread that Parker can play well when he's motivated. Would you say  that maybe he's worth keeping on the roster this season to see if he steps it up big time to "compete" with Waddel and Hill? That might be enough motivation for Parker.
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« Reply #190 on: March 24, 2022, 03:14:13 pm »

^^^ Edge, you wrote in the Tyreek Hill thread that Parker can play well when he's motivated. Would you say  that maybe he's worth keeping on the roster this season to see if he steps it up big time to "compete" with Waddel and Hill? That might be enough motivation for Parker.

He was motivated to get paid and he did. I think he is pretty much done until he needs a new contract. He would probably shine on a 1 year deal for someone.

The other thing is we might need to trade him regardless of what we think of him for salary cap reasons. It's just time to move on.
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« Reply #191 on: March 24, 2022, 03:45:31 pm »

Who were we going to get with our 1st and 2nd rounder this year better than Tyreek Hill?

This right here.   Miami gets a proven star receiver to play opposite their rising star.   Kansas City gets out of having to find a way to pay Hill big money next year or risk losing him for nothing and picks up extra draft picks.  They now have two late first round picks this year that they can use to move up to the middle of the first round and grab Williams, Wilson, Olave, or Burks to take Hill's place.   A win for both sides.
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« Reply #192 on: March 24, 2022, 03:49:12 pm »

For what it's worth, Hill's cap hit this year is just $6.4 Million. It is still possible we sign Tretter and the local reporters still say we want to address center. Probably going to have to get creative with 2023 in terms of cap space but who could deny getting Tretter wouldn't make us even better? Talking Top 10 unit now. Doesn't have to be Top 10 to win, but why not?
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« Reply #193 on: March 24, 2022, 04:03:36 pm »

The Hill trade demonstrated the team's knowledge of what wins in the NFL in conjunction with its knowledge of its own QB's demonstrated ability.  This article frames it well:

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/by-the-numbers/2021/5/20/22444495/how-to-build-an-aaron-rodgers-out-of-yac-and-mediocre-quarterbacks
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« Reply #194 on: March 25, 2022, 07:31:52 am »

I would expect the next move to be replacing one of those 4th-round picks traded for Hill with a trade of Devante Parker.
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