Pelosi going to Taiwan

[CF DolFan]

I know most conservatives are for this but was curious how you guys feel? Just the fact China has threatened us for doing so makes me feel like we now have to go there. China is bullying us and already trying to take us over from within. We need to stand up to them in my opinion.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

much ado about very little, the trip is consistent with current US/China/Taiwan relations.  AND Pelosi doesn’t set foreign policy, Biden or Blinken visiting would be significantly bigger news.

Once she lands I expect the usual group of the right wing to start pontificating that her visit undermined US relations. 

[CF DolFan]

much ado about very little, the trip is consistent with current US/China/Taiwan relations.  AND Pelosi doesn’t set foreign policy, Biden or Blinken visiting would be significantly bigger news.

Once she lands I expect the usual group of the right wing to start pontificating that her visit undermined US relations. 

Undermined Joe's Chinese bank account you mean? I don't think the GOP is worried about relations with the country trying to take us over from the inside out.

[Dave Gray]

China can suck it.  Taiwan should be free.  As for Pelosi going, it's probably not something that matters too big either way.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Undermined Joe's Chinese bank account you mean? I don't think the GOP is worried about relations with the country trying to take us over from the inside out.

And right on cue the nonsense begins

[ArtieChokePhin]

And right on cue the nonsense begins

I wouldn't be so sure about it being nonsense.

[Spider-Dan]

I'm not a fan of members of Congress acting like international diplomats; I felt the same way when Tulsi Gabbard went to meet Bashar al-Assad in Syria.  Leave the foreign relations to the State Department.

Undermined Joe's Chinese bank account you mean? I don't think the GOP is worried about relations with the country trying to take us over from the inside out.

So now you're concerned about a president lining his pockets with foreign deals?  I'm sure Trump's many deals in China are different though, because We Already Knew He Was A Businessman, so it's expected that he would use the Oval Office as a bargaining chip to sweeten cushy deals for his business.

I do agree with you on one thing, though... the GOP is definitely not worried about relations with China.  In the words of Dear Leader himself:

"Our relationship with China has now probably never, ever been better."

"One of the many great things about our just signed giant Trade Deal with China is that it will bring both the USA & China closer together in so many other ways. Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country. Much more to come!"

"I think our relationship with China is very good. We just did a big trade deal. We’re starting on another trade deal with China — a very big one."

I think Forbes did a good job of summarizing how easily China has manipulated the GOP.

[CF DolFan]

I'm not a fan of members of Congress acting like international diplomats; I felt the same way when Tulsi Gabbard went to meet Bashar al-Assad in Syria.  Leave the foreign relations to the State Department.
So now you're concerned about a president lining his pockets with foreign deals?  I'm sure Trump's many deals in China are different though, because We Already Knew He Was A Businessman, so it's expected that he would use the Oval Office as a bargaining chip to sweeten cushy deals for his business.

I do agree with you on one thing, though... the GOP is definitely not worried about relations with China.  In the words of Dear Leader himself:

"Our relationship with China has now probably never, ever been better."

"One of the many great things about our just signed giant Trade Deal with China is that it will bring both the USA & China closer together in so many other ways. Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country. Much more to come!"

"I think our relationship with China is very good. We just did a big trade deal. We’re starting on another trade deal with China — a very big one."

I think Forbes did a good job of summarizing how easily China has manipulated the GOP.

Dude ... if they had just 25% of the evidence aginst Joe and his genius son on Trump and Jr. then they'd have been arrested long ago. As it is they keep trying to kill Trump in the the court of public opinion because they do not have anything else.

BTW ... kudos to Pelosi and everyone who went there anyway!

[Spider-Dan]

You might not have noticed all the evidence against Trump because Fox is running shows about Biden catching COVID instead.  They actually ran two prime-time shows with no commercials just to make sure none of their viewers were tempted to change the channel!  After all, there are some things that are more important than money.

[CF DolFan]

You might not have noticed all the evidence against Trump because Fox is running shows about Biden catching COVID instead.  They actually ran two prime-time shows with no commercials just to make sure none of their viewers were tempted to change the channel!  After all, there are some things that are more important than money.

And yet few people cared to watch as less than half the people who watch the state of the unions tuned in and I think we can agree most people don't care about that. It's kind of like the 38% of people who are still supporting Biden. They will always pretend things are going as well as they can and facts have nothing to do with it ... hahaha. No one who isn't registered a Democrat really cares. If we are being honest it's a dog and pony show from both sides. Most think Trump could have done better but honestly few people really care either way. Trump was a baby before and he will continue to be when it comes to getting his way.

[Spider-Dan]

So if the ratings were higher then you'd believe the evidence?

Most think Trump could have done better but honestly few people really care either way.

Perhaps "few people care either way" would be a bit more believable coming from someone who doesn't reflexively defend Trump at every opportunity.  Say what you want about me, at least I'm not trying to spin this "who even cares about politics bro" nonsense.

I notice that you have no comment to offer on Trump's glowing praise of China, or on his many business deals there while he was in office.  We didn't elect an angel-in-chief!

[CF DolFan]

So if the ratings were higher then you'd believe the evidence?
Perhaps "few people care either way" would be a bit more believable coming from someone who doesn't reflexively defend Trump at every opportunity.  

LOL ... I defend Trump because it is your and some of the other lefts life goal to bitch about the guy for every and anything hoping it will stick. He honestly doesn't come up very much in my everyday life. If I'm being honest ... I'm praying he doesn't run again. It doesn't mean he's the devil you want him to be but I think it would be best for all of us (outside of liberal media) if he didn't.

[Tenshot13]

LOL ... I defend Trump because it is your and some of the other lefts life goal to bitch about the guy for every and anything hoping it will stick. He honestly doesn't come up very much in my everyday life. If I'm being honest ... I'm praying he doesn't run again. It doesn't mean he's the devil you want him to be but I think it would be best for all of us (outside of liberal media) if he didn't.

DeSantis 2024

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

DeSantis 2024

Nikki Fried 2022

[Tenshot13]

Nikki Fried 2022

No chance