Pelosi going to Taiwan

[CF DolFan]

Nikki Fried 2022

She's only one bender from being where the last Democratic option for governor is. It was only a few months ago when her and her husband, drunk and fighting in public, had the police called remove them from the Westin Resort. She's got issues.

[Dave Gray]

I'm gonna vote for Fried over Crist in the primary.

I don't hate Crist, but I think he's an opportunist who doesn't have convictions that align with mine.  I also think he's full of shit about things he's flip-flopped on when he changed parties.
I think Fried is more the real deal for someone who aligns with my political preference.

Until this shit is worked out, I'm pretty much a single-issue voter for abortion rights.  Any candidate who is on the wrong side of that can fuck right off.

[CF DolFan]

I'm gonna vote for Fried over Crist in the primary.

I don't hate Crist, but I think he's an opportunist who doesn't have convictions that align with mine.  I also think he's full of shit about things he's flip-flopped on when he changed parties.
I think Fried is more the real deal for someone who aligns with my political preference.

Until this shit is worked out, I'm pretty much a single-issue voter for abortion rights.  Any candidate who is on the wrong side of that can fuck right off.

Isn't that what voting is about? Seems like most people who are die hard red or blue pick the issue most pressing to them and vote that way. Very few are going to align perfectly with any of us.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Isn't that what voting is about?

I guess in Florida voting doesn't even matter anymore when the Governor can just remove someone who was elected on a whim because they have different political views. 

[Dave Gray]

Isn't that what voting is about?

No, I don't think so.

I mean, I'm not traditionally a single-issue voter.  Most issues I may have an opinion on, but there are gray areas about how much of an impact or how much political capital I think is worth putting towards something.

There are other issues where I have a preference, but it's not that big of a deal if I don't get my way.

But abortion is one that's just completely disqualifying for me.  I can see supporting a pro-life candidate in some deep red state where maybe I would get other things I wanted, but not now.  The issue is too much at the forefront.  If you aren't clearly pro-choice, you're disqualified.  And even if all of the choices are pro-choice, I'll probably pick the one I think is most likely to work on it.  But in the past, I've thought about things like electability and ability to work with the other side...things like that.


There are a few issues that are that prime importance right now:

#1 - The concept of democracy and voting.  Like, if this fails, we're done as a country.  It's over.  So, that's the most important thing.  If someone is going to throw out electors and stuff, I literally think they're traitors to the country.  Party aside, the concept of democratic elections are the most important thing.

#2 - Abortion, but that's just right now....because it's here in our face and we have to deal with it.


If there was someone who truly ran to get money out of politics and freely-finance elections and get rid of all of these PACs and special interests and lobbying.  Get rid of all of it.  I would be all over that person, but I don't think I've really seen a push for it other than lip service.  I think that this issue is tied into so many other things.

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I guess in Florida voting doesn't even matter anymore when the Governor can just remove someone who was elected on a whim because they have different political views. 

You mean suspended for not doing their job.

[CF DolFan]

I guess in Florida voting doesn't even matter anymore when the Governor can just remove someone who was elected on a whim because they have different political views. 

LOL ... so you think it's ok to be above the law as long as you vote Democrat. Why isn't that surprising?

[CF DolFan]

There are a few issues that are that prime importance right now:

#1 - The concept of democracy and voting.  Like, if this fails, we're done as a country.  It's over.  So, that's the most important thing.  If someone is going to throw out electors and stuff, I literally think they're traitors to the country.  Party aside, the concept of democratic elections are the most important thing.

#2 - Abortion, but that's just right now....because it's here in our face and we have to deal with it.


If there was someone who truly ran to get money out of politics and freely-finance elections and get rid of all of these PACs and special interests and lobbying.  Get rid of all of it.  I would be all over that person, but I don't think I've really seen a push for it other than lip service.  I think that this issue is tied into so many other things.

I agree with you about Democracy but I don't think we see it the same way. I think media and politicians create fear to get votes. In the same way Republicans say Democrats want to take all of your guns I think Democrats say Republicans not only want to make all abortion illegal they want to make contraceptives illegal. LOL ... sure there are some who are goofy enough to thinkn that way but most do not. It's up to each state to decide how they want to live.

For all of Trump's crappy things he's said or done the one thing he really did do was expose the hypocrisy of  Washington insiders, media, and how money is what pushes all of them. There is no way in the world you can tell me that the Bushes, Clintons, Cheneys, Obamas AND the media are not part of the same inner circle regardless of their party affiliation.

[Dave Gray]

I know we don't see eye to eye on Trump, but I honest-to-God think he's a threat to Democracy and the very existence of America.

His lies about the election and his ability to get people to follow him that are admitting, under oath, that they knew he was lying, is a major, major, major problem.  ....like, it's how countries fall -- type of problem.

Any politician who doesn't unequivocally say that Trump lost the election and also doesn't fully condemn his actions to overthrow the government is a traitor.  ....a literal traitor.

If you want to talk about the big political machine, sure -- I can agree with that.  Everyone is plugged in and they play by a different set of rules.

There are some simple things that need to happen.  Nobody in public office should be able to own stock in companies that isn't under a blind-trust, for starters.  It's crazy that we let people have a stake in something (coal, solar, sugar, ....ANYTHING) and then allow they to write policy for those industries.  Corruption at worst, but even in best cases, you're going to have insider trading and outside influences.

Money needs to get out of politics.  It's fucking everything up.

1) Money out of politics.
2) Ranked choice voting.
3) Codifying political norms into actual laws.

There's no reason not to do these -- none of them favor one political party or ideology over another.

[Spider-Dan]

In the same way Republicans say Democrats want to take all of your guns I think Democrats say Republicans not only want to make all abortion illegal they want to make contraceptives illegal. LOL ... sure there are some who are goofy enough to thinkn that way but most do not.

When Republicans say Democrats want to take all of your guns, they are talking about random people on the Internet like Fau (no offense).
When Democrats say Republicans want to outlaw contraceptions, we are talking about a Supreme Court Justice, Republicans in Congress, and a Republican nominee for state Attorney General.

You're comparing the opinions of the far edge of the left to those of people holding office on the right.

[Dave Gray]

I don't think that making contraceptives outright illegal is possible (but I've been wrong before), but I can definitely see certain kinds being made illegal.

And no doubt that if they had the power to make abortion illegal at a Federal level, they would do so.  No question.

I think we're gonna see this in Kansas, too.  Abortion was sounded supported in a very red state.  People want legal abortion, even Republicans.  But I don't think that you're going to see many ballot initiatives anymore after this and instead, they're going to try doing it through judges and state legislature

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

You mean suspended for not doing their job.

He is doing his job.  If the DA has an honest and sincere belief that a law is unconstitutional he is duty bound not to enforce the law.  Note: that is different than just personally disagrees with the law, but actually believes the law is unconstitutional.  In this case the law probably violates the Florida state constitution.  Maybe the Florida supreme court will rule that it is Constitutional, but until then it would be a gross violation of his ethical duties to willfully do something he believes would be a violation of a citizen's constitutional rights. 

Why hasn't Desantos removed Sherriff Dennis Lemma?

[CF DolFan]

Why hasn't Desantos removed Sherriff Dennis Lemma?

Please do tell

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Please do tell

https://gunpowdermagazine.com/florida-sheriff-says-he-wont-enforce-proposed-weapons-registration-law/

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https://gunpowdermagazine.com/florida-sheriff-says-he-wont-enforce-proposed-weapons-registration-law/

Did this law pass?  I don't really care about hypotheticals.