Rasmussen poll Majority of American voters agree that FBI is Biden's Gestapo

[CF DolFan]

This is the same BS argument y'all pulled when Trump fired Comey: "Liberals wanted him fired and now they all love him!" Yes, Comey deserved to be fired, but not for refusing to end the investigation into Russian election interference (which is what Trump directly said he fired him for).

Similarly, yes, the FBI has serious problems with who they target and how they operate, from the days of J. Edgar Hoover trying to smear MLK, to the days of infiltrating and spying on mosques, to rogue FBI offices "forcing" Comey to announce a reopening of the investigation into Hillary a week before the election (as he quietly sits on the simultaneous ongoing investigation into Trump).

But y'all don't give a shit about any of that; in fact, you cheer it wildly.  The sole and exclusive problem you have is that the FBI showed up at Mar-A-Lago to confiscate federal property that Trump illegally stole and refused to return with the rest of the papers they retrieved the FIRST time they asked him nicely to return all the documents he stole.

LOL ... how's this for your hypothesis?  If Trump did have the top secret stuff like plans for nuclear bomb then I have no problem with him being charged etc. The problem lies in the fact the whole thing was odd and still appears to be odd. Regardless of how this turns out right now it looks to be a politically motivated stunt ... even by some liberals and independents. It is far from the clear cut case you guys are seeing on your beloved MSNBC.  hahaha

[Dave Gray]

Regardless of how this turns out right now it looks to be a politically motivated stunt ... even by some liberals and independents. It is far from the clear cut case you guys are seeing on your beloved MSNBC.  hahaha

It's not.

He was subpoenas to return documents.  He didn't do it.  His attorney said that everything was returned when it wasn't.  So, they sent in a team to recover it, just like would happen to anyone.

How can you say this is a political stunt?   The dude refused to return classified docs.  It's pretty straight-forward. 

[CF DolFan]

It's not.

He was subpoenas to return documents.  He didn't do it.  His attorney said that everything was returned when it wasn't.  So, they sent in a team to recover it, just like would happen to anyone.

How can you say this is a political stunt?   The dude refused to return classified docs.  It's pretty straight-forward. 

That's exactly what I mean. You buy into the story 100% while more than half of America doesn't or at least has serious questions that need to be answered. I would think by now you would see that nothing is 100% like it is originally portrayed by media or politicians. The American public as a whole questions most things these days. I'm guessing you thought Trump was guilty of having a stripper pee on him while he was selling the US out to Putin as well but that turned out to be a fabricated story paid for by the Clintons.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

It's not.

He was subpoenas to return documents.  He didn't do it.  His attorney said that everything was returned when it wasn't.  So, they sent in a team to recover it, just like would happen to anyone.

How can you say this is a political stunt?   The dude refused to return classified docs.  It's pretty straight-forward. 

It was a political stunt, just like:

In 1973 the Justice department knowing one day Trump would run for president accused Trump of violating the Fair Housing Act.  

In 1985 the City of New York, knowing one day Trump would run for president accused Trump of using illegal tactics to evict tenants.  

In 1988 the Justice department in its continuing effort do foil Trump's political asperations sued him for anti-Trust violations.  

In 2000 New York State Lobbying Commission also joined the witch hunt against future presidential candidate Trump for his illegal lobbying activities.  

In 2001 the SEC joined in the attempt to derail Trump's political asperations.

Then in 2003 the Germans even joined the effort to undermine the future prez for political reasons.  Maybe that was why he and Angela Markel has such off relations.  

In 2013 the NY state atty general sued Trump over his fake university.  

All of these were politically motivated to prevent Trump from building his wall.  

[Dave Gray]

I'm guessing you thought Trump was guilty of having a stripper pee on him while he was selling the US out to Putin as well but that turned out to be a fabricated story paid for by the Clintons.

You guess incorrectly.  I never bought into the pee-pee tapes as that was just undocumented rumors and speculation.  I never saw that reported as fact.  To me, that's Hunter Biden's laptop territory.  It might be based in something partially true, but who cares -- there's not evidence of it.

I only listed facts.
Trump was believed to have classified docs (in itself, not a big deal).
Trump was subpoenaed for docs. (Also, not a huge deal -- maybe he didn't know he had them)
Trump's attorney reported to the FBI that all docs were returned, when they were not (weird....could the attorney have thought the were returned?)
Trump released all these weird statements insinuating docs were planted, etc.
FBI came to get the unreturned docs from the subpoena. 

Now, I'm not just saying we throw him in jail.  I believe in due process.  They have to go through and investigate if stuff is missing and why this all went down the way it did.