absolutely no probable cause

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Are they under water restrictions? 

Well played. 

[Spider-Dan]

"Had he had a warrant on him and the officer let him go about his business the officer would have been killed on social media for not doing his job."

Couple of problems with this.  First and foremost, the ONLY concern CF expresses is for the reputation of the officer, but absolutely nothing else.

I would say that a cop taking legally incorrect actions solely because he's scared of being roasted on Twitter is the textbook definition of a snowflake, but if we're being honest, it is not credible to assign that viewpoint to the cop in the first place.

Cops do not care the slightest bit about being criticized on social media.  If they did, they would not continue to behave this way while wearing body cams!

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I would say that a cop taking legally incorrect actions solely because he's scared of being roasted on Twitter is the textbook definition of a snowflake, but if we're being honest, it is not credible to assign that viewpoint to the cop in the first place.

Cops do not care the slightest bit about being criticized on social media.  If they did, they would not continue to behave this way while wearing body cams!

They care about some critism.  But not all critism.  Most cops will defend another cop for tasering an elementary student for talking back to a cop, but draw the line at waiting in the hallway during an active shooter.  Not arresting a uppity AA that talked back to them wouldn't be macho. 

[Spider-Dan]

That isn't "worrying about social media response."  That is simply enforcing the Prime Directive: thou shalt not disrespect a police officer.  That officer definitely still would have arrested that pastor 20 years ago, before social media or bodycams existed.

[masterfins]

The problem is their boss is defending their actions just like CF police don't treat this as a learning opportunity.

Agreed, there is a lot of generational ingrained bad policing. New cops, that may start off as good cops, are trained to go along to get along.  Leadership needs to come from the top.  Long Island Audit has a lot of videos out there of government agencies along the east coast - some are good, some are terrible.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

This channel should be required watching for police officers. 

https://www.youtube.com/c/AuditTheAudit

[Spider-Dan]

I think cops watching that channel would be like drug dealers watching The Wire or Breaking Bad.
I doubt they'll get the lesson you want them to.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

he breaks it down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2HEpfdXmYY

[masterfins]

I would say that a cop taking legally incorrect actions solely because he's scared of being roasted on Twitter is the textbook definition of a snowflake, but if we're being honest, it is not credible to assign that viewpoint to the cop in the first place.

Cops do not care the slightest bit about being criticized on social media.  If they did, they would not continue to behave this way while wearing body cams!

Well just like some criminals are caught because they are not that bright, the cops you see in these videos are also not that bright which is why they do it while wearing body cams. lol

[Spider-Dan]

Although I broadly disagree with libertarians, a broken clock is right twice a day...

Chewing a burger without a burger chewing license? Death penalty.

Absolutely indefensible.  Of course, it goes without saying that this was not the suspect the officer was looking for, that he lied on his police report about what happened, yada yada yada.

Disrespecting the police is always a capital offense.
Police are judge, jury, and executioner.

[CF DolFan]

The funny thing is that even how rare these things happens it almost never haens when people follow the directions of the officer. It's kind of like riding a motorcyle ... I may be have the right of way but it doesn't matter when it comes to a crash with an automobile so I can't just act like it on the highway. Regardless of how a person may feel about police officers when they follow their directives everyone goes home safe. I don't think it matters much in the situation who thinks tey are right or wrong. That's what attorneys are for and they aren't much use of you're dead.

Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police!
https://youtu.be/uj0mtxXEGE8

[fyo]

The funny thing is that even how rare these things happens it almost never haens when people follow the directions of the officer.

While I'm loath to event comment on this topic and I certainly do not consider myself "anti-police" in any way (and every single interaction I've ever had with police have been positive, confusing sometimes when abroad and not understanding anything, but still positive), you cannot ignore basic human psychology: People get scared when you pull a gun on them. Basic flight response of an untrained normal human being. Attempted murder is not a reasonable reaction to that, especially not if you are a trained police officer.

Honestly, I don't know how I would have reacted, had I been that kid. I probably would have had a freakin' heart attack (and then been shot by the idiot because I moved in a way he didn't expect). It's not quite clear what actually happened - I read a report that indicated the kids foot might have slipped from the brake, causing the vehicle to move - again, a slip of a foot when scared shitless is not an unreasonable response, not should it be an unexpected response.

Again, I am actually very positive of law enforcement in general, but this tendency of people like you CF to excuse INSANE behavior is not productive.

[Fau Teixeira]

I'd settle for any cop that killed an unarmed person would at least lose their job and get entered into a nationwide cop offender database to prevent re-hires in other cities. .. If you don't have the mental fortitude to be a cop, then you shouldn't be one.

[Dave Gray]

CF, your stance is strange.

Cops don't have the authority to just tell you what to do under penalty of death.  I support police, but they don't have a free reign to just take any action they choose.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Although I broadly disagree with libertarians, a broken clock is right twice a day...

Chewing a burger without a burger chewing license? Death penalty.

Absolutely indefensible.  Of course, it goes without saying that this was not the suspect the officer was looking for, that he lied on his police report about what happened, yada yada yada.

Disrespecting the police is always a capital offense.
Police are judge, jury, and executioner.

The cop was fired but he needs to be charged with attempted murder, maybe even two counts since there was a teenage girl in the car as well. You couldn't do what he did without rotting in jail for 20 years, this should be no different.