Tua in concussion protocol

[masterfins]

And yet somehow I would actually appreciate Tua more if he did the smart thing and didn't let ego or just following established precedence rule him. It's no secret that I never wanted Tua on the Dolphins but now that he's the best QB we got, I'd actually like to see him be able to play for a few years. Sadly, I don't think it will happen. This is one of the reasons why I didn't want Miami to take him.

+1

[Downunder Dolphan]

here's the video in question

https://twitter.com/SelfMade0602/status/1607133176723566595

This play occurred right before Mostert turned the ball over on the next play.  Tua popped up from the hit and took the snap where Mostert fumbled.  Very telling this was right before half and then looked really, really bad in the 2nd half.

Again, he got busted up in the Bills game, got slammed to the ground in the Cincy game, and now this.  These do take a toll on the brain.  Damn, such a shame

I went back and watched the whole Packers game (being the Dolphins supporting masochist that I am), and to be honest it's hard to pinpoint where it came from.

Tua took a lot of hits all game long. and while that was the obvious biggest shot, he still threw some stunningly good passes after that - even after the first INT (which itself was wildly inaccurate). It was really the second and third INTs when there was a sense that something was really off - he was throwing the exact opposite to where the receivers (Mostert, Gieseke) were breaking to, and everyone had this stunned "WTF just happened?" look on their faces.

As you mentioned, maybe it's cumulative - a build up of all the hits from this game and the one before against the Bills?

[Downunder Dolphan]

Tua Tagovailoa 'very thankful' how Dolphins handled his concussions: They were 'protecting me from myself'

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tua-tagovailoa-very-thankful-how-dolphins-handled-his-concussions-they-were-protecting-me-from-myself/

[Pappy13]

Tua Tagovailoa 'very thankful' how Dolphins handled his concussions: They were 'protecting me from myself'

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tua-tagovailoa-very-thankful-how-dolphins-handled-his-concussions-they-were-protecting-me-from-myself/

This is not exactly encouraging in my humble opinion. This sounds a lot like a maturity issue. I don't see Tua as that mature of an athlete. He lets his desire to play, make big plays etc get in the way of doing the smart thing too often. He has big play potential, but you have to be smart too and I don't see that. He plays too much by the seat of his pants. I'd actually like to see him become more of a student of the game and grow into the role. There's more to being the QB than making big throws. He hasn't seemed to grasp that yet in my opinion.

[CF DolFan]

I know it wasn't your intention but you made me laugh. Just like Mahomes and his "sprained ankle" against Jacksonville ... most NFL players would choose to play over their health. That doesn't have any relevenace to their other descision making ability.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Tua is also taking Jiu Jitsu to help him learn how to fall in an attempt to mitigate injury. It's a good skill to have but learning to give up on plays is what will save him in the long run, not learning the best way to position your arms for when Joey Bosa German Suplexes you on your head because you didn't want to throw the ball away.

[Pappy13]

Just like Mahomes and his "sprained ankle" against Jacksonville ... most NFL players would choose to play over their health. That doesn't have any relevenace to their other descision making ability.

I think it does. I think Brady has shown us all that just as important as making big plays is the ability to avoid bad plays. Brady does this better than anyone and in my opinion is one of the reasons he's considered the goat. He plays within himself and within the design while still making big plays better than anyone. I didn't fully appreciate that about his game earlier in his career. D4L calls him lucky, it's not that. It's that he doesn't let the game get away from him ever. No matter what he stays the course and more often than not has a chance to win the game in the end. He does this better than anyone. Most guys panic or press too hard and try to force things. There's a lot of young guys that do this and get themselves into trouble.

[CF DolFan]

Tua is also taking Jiu Jitsu to help him learn how to fall in an attempt to mitigate injury. It's a good skill to have but learning to give up on plays is what will save him in the long run, not learning the best way to position your arms for when Joey Bosa German Suplexes you on your head because you didn't want to throw the ball away.

You can give up all you want but if you are going to make plays you eventually are going to get hit. Brady got hit a lot over the years. The more he got hit in agem the less likely he won but he got hit even when things were going well.

[Pappy13]

You can give up all you want but if you are going to make plays you eventually are going to get hit. Brady got hit a lot over the years. The more he got hit in agem the less likely he won but he got hit even when things were going well.

It's not just about getting hit, it's also about understanding your limitations. Yes, you are going to get hit regardless, but don't take hits needlessly. If the play breaks down get rid of the ball, don't be running around with it and don't be trying to throw it while falling backwards etc. If you can't step into the throw than just throw it away or get down or get out of bounds. Things like that. There's a fine line between being a hero and being smart. Guys like Tua need to be smart, because they aren't physically gifted enough to be the hero. He's not Patrick Mahomes as much as he'd like to be. Mahomes is on a whole different level at the QB position when it comes to improvisation. He can get away with it. I haven't seen Tua be able to do that yet. Whenever he tries to make something happen it ends up either badly or almost badly.

[fyo]

^ I hate Brady, but getting rid of the ball when the play wasn't there was an absolute strong point of his game.

[CF DolFan]

Lol ...I understand the concept of getting rid of the ball but we are speaking directly about Tua. None of his concussions came from him for holding onto the ball. One was a routine push at the end of the play and the other was him running and enduring a routine tackle from behind. 

[Dave Gray]

Tua is also taking Jiu Jitsu to help him learn how to fall in an attempt to mitigate injury. It's a good skill to have but learning to give up on plays is what will save him in the long run, not learning the best way to position your arms for when Joey Bosa German Suplexes you on your head because you didn't want to throw the ball away.

I don't think this is fair.  On Tua's injuries, it wasn't like he was holding the ball when he shouldn't.  He got rid of it and then got shoved in a normal way that happens to all QBs.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I know it wasn't your intention but you made me laugh. Just like Mahomes and his "sprained ankle" against Jacksonville ... most NFL players would choose to play over their health. That doesn't have any relevenace to their other descision making ability.

There is a significant difference between playing with a sprained ankle and playing with a concussion. 

[CF DolFan]

There is a significant difference between playing with a sprained ankle and playing with a concussion. 

Says you. To people with a competitive spirit it's just an injury to suck up and move on. How many NFL QBs have admitted to playing with their bell rung? Hell ... I'm pretty sure it's still going on in high school and Pop Warner.

[Pappy13]

Lol ...I understand the concept of getting rid of the ball but we are speaking directly about Tua. None of his concussions came from him for holding onto the ball. One was a routine push at the end of the play and the other was him running and enduring a routine tackle from behind.  

None of my comments have anything whatsoever to do with Tua's concussions. It has to do with his playing. He frequently tries to make something out of nothing when it would be better for him to just concede that play and move on to the next. I'm not talking about his 2 concussions, I'm talking about dozens of other plays where he didn't get concussed.