Sean Payton and Saints Trade Demands

[EDGECRUSHER]

DEN still has every single pick from 2025 forward and you think they have sunk themselves "for 15 years"?

I don't think any of the first-round picks in 2007 or 2008 would have had any impact on the Dolphins' season last year, no matter who they were.

Two straight years of no 1st or 2nd rounders adds up, especially for a team that isn't good to begin with. If Wilson can't rebound, that team has almost no chance of rebuilding any time soon unless they get some high end starters in the later rounds.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

It is a lot of lottery tickets to give up, plus some cheap contracts, so the next 4-5 years are going to be tough. They had a fairly easy schedule and one of the worst offenses in the league. Sure, the 5 wins they got was maybe a bit unlucky, but it did take a top 10 defense to manage that and defensive performance doesn't have as high a year-to-year correlation as offensive performance, so it might be tough to keep that up. With the Chiefs in the division, it's going to be Wild Card hunting for a while and if the Chargers and Herbert get rolling as well, it could be an even tougher division.

Still, you have to think ownership is thinking more than 2 years ahead on this. If Wilson doesn't turn things around, it might be worth it to just suck for a couple of years and make trades for future picks. Mahomes is only 27, though, so you have to figure the Chiefs are going to be tough for a long while yet.

They gave up a 1st rounder this year and went down by one round from 2nd to 3rd next year.  So about average as coach trades go.  What they paid for Wilson was pretty steep. 

Problem for both Wilson and Payton is that it could hurt the team for the next 3-4 years.  And if the team have 3 losing seasons in a row, I doubt either one will be around for the fourth. 

[DenverFinFan]

Two straight years of no 1st or 2nd rounders adds up, especially for a team that isn't good to begin with. If Wilson can't rebound, that team has almost no chance of rebuilding any time soon unless they get some high end starters in the later rounds.

Yeah I was gonna say 25’ is a ways off, you can’t get that good defense together forever and some stars and upcoming guys are gonna want paydays or want out. Unless Russ can rebound the future looks bleak.

Plus it’s a crapshoot anyway and most rookies take time so you’re looking at a while before they would be competitive again. Not to mention you’re in Mahomes and Herbert’s division

[EDGECRUSHER]

^^^

Not to mention that the Raiders are a solid team with shit coaching. I believe they set the record for most games lost while leading by double digits in the 2nd half. They could rebound next year to win 12 games and it wouldn't be too shocking if they get the right QB to replace Carr.