Did the USWNT throw the World Cup?

[dolphins4life]

Given that they already got to get half of the money the men earned from their World Cup, could it be that they threw the match to avoid having to give half of what they earned to the men?

I was absolutely right when I said the new deal involves taking the money the men earn and giving it the women.  Spider and Hoodie both said I was wrong, but I was right.

I don't why anybody in their right mind would sign up for such a deal, but woke pressure can be huge.  

Can you imagine earning almost 6 million dollars for literally doing absolutely nothing?

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/u-women-soccer-team-earns-202726199.html

Here's the link that literally proves everything that I was saying correct.

Prize money is money the teams earned.

They have to split it between the two teams now.

The men earn far more in prize money.

Therefore, the money the men earn goes to the women.

[Dave Gray]

No

[EDGECRUSHER]

No, the rest of the world is just catching up to us in terms of women's soccer. We were elite for a long time because few other countries gave a shit. Now, they do and it's harder.

[Brian Fein]

Here's the link that proves that some people just want everything to be a conspiracy:

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=28060.msg392357

[Phishfan]

No, this team was stuck in a transition period and had a horrible coach. I don't think they put together the best possible roster. Morgan should have probably been on the squad but I don't think has been in great form and Rapinoe should have never been on the squad (purely based on form and not a political opinion).

[Dave Gray]

Also, teams lose.  You can't win the World Cup every single time.

[Fau Teixeira]

And not only that .. they lost in PKs after a 0-0 draw .. PKs are a roll of the dice.

[CF DolFan]

They lost because they aren't as focused as they used to be. They used to have one agenda as a team but now I don't think soccer is first and foremost for some of them and I'm not just speaking about politics.  Just speak with some former players and ask them. Off the record they have been furious with some of these women even before this WC started. I'd like to think this is a wake up call but it is a new generation so who knows.

[Dave Gray]

I don't follow, so my opinion is useless, but we saw this with Men's Basketball.

They won by default, then the world caught up and created teams that played together regularly.  So, when you threw the all-star team together, they didn't add up to more than the sum of their parts and took too long to gel, so they got bounced.

Then they did the "redeem team" stuff and made these guys commit to playing together for a longer term.  I imagine that could be part of it.

[Spider-Dan]

The USWNT is still currently the #1 ranked women's national team in the world.
The lowest they have ever been ranked is #2.  The last time that happened was over six years ago.

Failing to win a third-straight World Cup does not necessarily mean the team has collapsed due to a "lack of focus."

[Phishfan]

Let's not play the they are still number one card. That's only because this isn't like college football with weekly updates. Rest assured you will not see our ladies ranked 1 or  2 when FIFA updates.

[Spider-Dan]

Again, they have never been ranked lower than 2nd in their history.  What rank do you think they will fall to?

[CF DolFan]

The USWNT is still currently the #1 ranked women's national team in the world.
The lowest they have ever been ranked is #2.  The last time that happened was over six years ago.

Failing to win a third-straight World Cup does not necessarily mean the team has collapsed due to a "lack of focus."

That's really ignoring the obvious and only focusing on the positive just like many soccer moms. It was far from just failing to win. They didn't play very well in 4 games and got knocked out earlier than at any time in history. This team completely underachieved from game one and continued to spiral. If the Chiefs only win 1 game in their division against the weakest team I think most people would feel the same way.

[Spider-Dan]

"Getting knocked out in the round of 16" is not remotely similar to "winning 1 game in a season."
A better comparison for a 1-win season would be something like, say, failing to make the World Cup at all... which is what happened to the USMNT in 2018.  Strangely enough, I don't remember any posts about "spiraling due to a lack of focus" at the time, nor do I remember Democrats blaming Trump and his xenophobia for why the USMNT missed the World Cup for the first time in over 30 years.

Ah, but I'm sure that it's a coincidence that this thread appears as Trump is bashing the USWNT and insisting that Joe Biden's wokeness is what caused them to lose.

[Spider-Dan]

This was the point:

The USMNT received an award from FIFA for reaching the round of sixteen.

The round of 16, you say?
Interesting, as that's the same round the USWNT made it to.

This award was based on the fans that paid to see THEM play and the revenue of fans paying to watch THEM play generated.

Therefore, this was money the USMNT national team EARNED

Nowhere in your link does it state, or even imply, that the USMNT "made more money" by losing in the round of 16 than the USWNT did by achieving the same thing.

But if we are to discuss which team is unfairly profiting off of the other, in 2015 and 2019 the USWNT won the World Cup, while the USMNT didn't even make the World Cup in 2018.  This is a major reason why US Soccer agreed to start splitting the money 50/50 between both teams.

Under the new bargaining agreement, they had to give half of this money to the USWNT.

Correct.  So even though the USWNT has been far more successful and should honestly be entitled to more than half the money, they are only getting half.

I think your position on this subject can be summed up neatly by the following sentence:

Can you imagine earning almost 6 million dollars for literally doing absolutely nothing?

The USWNT lost in the round of 16 in the 2023 World Cup, finishing in 9th place.  You categorize the pay they receive for this result as "6 million dollars for literally doing absolutely nothing."

The USMNT also lost in the round of 16 in the 2022 World Cup, finishing in 14th place.  You categorize the pay they receive for this result as "money the USMNT national team EARNED."