Gen Z - the choice of a shit generation

[Downunder Dolphan]

Have you ever come across such a bunch of lazy, entitled, spoiled, clueless, selfish, vain, greedy, impolite, disrespectful brats in your life?

When I look at the youth of today, I think, fuck it, they are proving Darwin was wrong.

Look after yourselves, because these little shits certainly aren't going to.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Happens every generation.  Your parents thought the same about you.  Your grandparents thought the same of your parents.  Gen Z will think the same of their children.

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

― Socrates

[Downunder Dolphan]

Yeah I know... but I am Gen X from the Robin Williams era. So two generations.

He did a stand up where he said one day your kid is going to say to your face: "God Dad, you're fucked!", and your father will be behind you going "Yes!"

It's more than that though. I really think these kids growing up now are more clueless, selfish, rude and entitled than ever - because their parents never grew out of it.

No manners, no respect, for anyone, not even themselves. You can be young and dumb for so long... but this generation is something else. It literally wants to be young and dumb forever.

[Dave Gray]

With respect, you're just old.

Every generation has this realization about the youth that comes up after them.

I was going to post an old quote from Socrates complaining about "kids these days", but instead, I found a page with 2500 years of quotes of people complaining.  People get old and they don't understand the social norms coming behind them.  It's a tale as old as time.

https://historyhustle.com/2500-years-of-people-complaining-about-the-younger-generation/

[Phishfan]

Get off my lawn.

[CF DolFan]

I've lived long enough to admit both the Baby Boomers and Greatest Generation worked much harder than Gen X ever did. It's also easy to see how the generations after me came with more entitlements and less dedication than I could have even dreamed of. Society continues to get soft and the youngest generation has just completely given in to being soft both mentally and when it comes to hard work. It's why our country used to lead but is now falling behind in so many areas. History has proven this is inevitable I guess.

[Fau Teixeira]

Broken Record Time!!!

The "good old days" of the booming 50s and 60s demonstrated what strong unions and 90+% top tax rates can do to a middle class. Ever since Reagan, we've been on the downslope in terms of quality of life, purchasing power and income inequality. So we have what we have now. 40 years after the fact, i'm fairly confident in saying Regan was one of the bottom 10 presidents in our history.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Broken Record Time!!!

The "good old days" of the booming 50s and 60s demonstrated what strong unions and 90+% top tax rates can do to a middle class. Ever since Reagan, we've been on the downslope in terms of quality of life, purchasing power and income inequality. So we have what we have now. 40 years after the fact, i'm fairly confident in saying Regan was one of the bottom 10 presidents in our history.

You forgot a liveable minimum wage and affordable college.

[CF DolFan]

LOL ... you guys are forgetting it was also before the competition of women working outside of the home. Prior to that each man could earn enough to support a family of 4 or more if the work force is half of what it is now.

[Spider-Dan]

That's not how economics works.  We would not have the same GDP if half the adults in the country just stopped working.  Productivity would rapidly fall and companies would start collapsing.

If you want to know why a man in the '60s could provide a comfortable life for his family on one income, there are two answers:

1.  America had a much larger portion of global manufacturing immediately after WW2, when Europe and Japan were rebuilding.

2.

[Fau Teixeira]

LOL ... you guys are forgetting it was also before the competition of women working outside of the home. Prior to that each man could earn enough to support a family of 4 or more if the work force is half of what it is now.

You have it backwards. It is because someone can't earn enough to support a family of 4 or more on a single salary therefore it means that 2 income households have become a requirement.

[CF DolFan]

You have it backwards. It is because someone can't earn enough to support a family of 4 or more on a single salary therefore it means that 2 income households have become a requirement.

It absolutely did not start that way. The whole burn the bra movement that started in the 60s put women in the workplace long before we needed two incomes to survive. It also meant we saw a lot of nipples in the 70s but that was a whole different story.  hahaha

You made me curious so I looked it up. This was on the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

The percentage of dual-income households with children under age 18 has been on the rise since the 1960s, surpassing the percentage of father-only-employed households in the 1970s.1 This rise most likely reflects a cultural shift involving women in the workforce. The female labor force participation rate increased from 1960 onward, peaking at 60 percent in 1999.2 Monitoring and analyzing this trend is important, because the expenditure patterns of dual-income households could differ from those of single-income households, affecting the U.S. economy.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

It absolutely did not start that way. The whole burn the bra movement that started in the 60s put women in the workplace long before we needed two incomes to survive. It also meant we saw a lot of nipples in the 70s but that was a whole different story.  hahaha

You made me curious so I looked it up. This was on the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

The percentage of dual-income households with children under age 18 has been on the rise since the 1960s, surpassing the percentage of father-only-employed households in the 1970s.1 This rise most likely reflects a cultural shift involving women in the workforce. The female labor force participation rate increased from 1960 onward, peaking at 60 percent in 1999.2 Monitoring and analyzing this trend is important, because the expenditure patterns of dual-income households could differ from those of single-income households, affecting the U.S. economy.

There definitely a bit of a feedback loop.  Lower wages increases the need for dual income, an increase in available labor depresses wages.  Repeat.   However trying to blame women for the depressed wages is ridiculous

[Spider-Dan]

I mean, if we're going to blame depressed wages on increased labor supply, the 1964 Civil Rights Act and its prohibition on discrimination on the basis of race or sex during hiring probably factored in, too.

There are all sorts of factors that created an ample supply of well-paying jobs for white American men in the 1960s.  And ironically, I do agree that the Civil Rights Act had a lot to do with why those conditions no longer exist.