The Presidential Debate

[Dave Gray]

I just don't want to duck the fact that it was a pretty disastrous performance from Biden.  I think I just have to let things level out for the next 48 hours or so, because I think everyone is running around in a panic.  We shall see...

[Fau Teixeira]

Biden looked old, because he is old.  But he could be a walking cadaver with barely a pulse and he'd still be 1000x better than Trump.

[Denver2]

It was awful no way around it, Trump will win unless there is divine intervention and he has a stroke.

Biden should have not sought a second term months ago but here we are and we need to do something quick because it’s over if that orange maniac he back in power. He will transform this country to a Christian theocracy. He is dangerous and the CiA should make themselves useful for once.

[CF DolFan]

I honestly am taken aback from liberals. Everyone has has been watching him and knew exactly how bad he is. I mean seriously... he didn't freaking get prosecuted like Trump is because he is old and lacks competency yet no one thought he'd fail so poorly? I have a hard time buying into that and definitely think there is a back-up plan.

[Fau Teixeira]

I did hear from my Maga neighbor in florida that people were only electing Biden so he could get assassinated after a week and we'd be stuck with "Kamala" as president.

So really is conspiracy after plot after conspiracy just how the Trumpers think?

[Spider-Dan]

It's pretty hilarious to me that Trump gets convicted of 34 felonies and there is not even the slightest whisper of replacing him as nominee, yet Biden has one bad debate and people are pulling their hair out, insisting that Biden Must Be Replaced.

[Denver2]

It's pretty hilarious to me that Trump gets convicted of 34 felonies and there is not even the slightest whisper of replacing him as nominee, yet Biden has one bad debate and people are pulling their hair out, insisting that Biden Must Be Replaced.

Trump should have been arrested for treason as soon as Biden was sworn in but alas here we are. Yes Trump should not be on the ballot but conservatives are morally bankrupt and concerned only with power.

Biden has been a great president but the idiot public doesn’t see it that way and he needs to retire so we have a chance at defeating Trump who is a danger to all freedom loving people.

[masterfins]

Trump should have been arrested for treason as soon as Biden was sworn in but alas here we are. Yes Trump should not be on the ballot but conservatives are morally bankrupt and concerned only with power.

Biden has been a great president but the idiot public doesn’t see it that way and he needs to retire so we have a chance at defeating Trump who is a danger to all freedom loving people.

Both Democrats and Republican politicians are only concerned with power, don't kid yourself thinking it's only conservatives.

Biden hasn't been a great President.  If you ask the age old question are you better off today than you were four years ago, then a majority of people would say NO.

Biden is not competent to be President, and his wife needs to get him to bow out so someone else can be chosen at the National Convention; and just about anyone they pick will beat Trump.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

No question the debate performance was bad.  But I am not sure if it matters.  I am still going to vote for Biden, CF DolFan is still going to vote for Trump so the majority of people who are firmly in one camp or the other it doesn't matter.

The majority of folks who don't feel particularly strongly about politics, they didn't even know there was a debate. 

But had an interesting conversation with a neighbor who is a lifelong Republican going back to voting for Nixon in 1960, who voted for Biden in 2020 and switched from Republican to Independent after Jan 6th riots.  She said, "Biden is old and a bad debater.  I already knew that.  Doesn't change the fact Trump refused to accept the election and tried to overthrow the government." 

When I asked her if she thought the democrat should replace him her responses was:

"I don't give a crap.  The real question is will the Republicans replace Trump.  Because if Trump is replaced assuming it is with someone decent like Haley or Hogan and not another nut job like Flynn or Guiliani then I can vote Republican.  It isn't Biden that needs to be replaced it is Trump"     

  If you ask the age old question are you better off today than you were four years ago, then a majority of people would say NO.

Really?  Four years ago we were in the worst economic crisis in decades and the stores didn't have toilet paper. 

[Denver2]

Both Democrats and Republican politicians are only concerned with power, don't kid yourself thinking it's only conservatives.

Biden hasn't been a great President.  If you ask the age old question are you better off today than you were four years ago, then a majority of people would say NO.

Biden is not competent to be President, and his wife needs to get him to bow out so someone else can be chosen at the National Convention; and just about anyone they pick will beat Trump.

Four years ago? It’s the same really except unemployment is much lower and tens of thousands of people aren’t dying every week because the government whiffed the response to Covid.

If I’m doing worse it’s because of decisions I’ve made. Biden has done a g re at job from ending Afghanistan which we were endlessly promised by prior administrations, by virtually halting the drone strike program, uniting the west to defend Ukraine and democracy, to having record low unemployment and small successes in the health care sector.

It’s a distinguished presidency but he was saddled by inherited inflation and a government in chaos. COVID spending was bound to cause inflation but even before that Trump was the most reckless spender of any president in my life time.

Fiscal conservatives lol I’m actually a low tax liberal like the governor of my state but come on there was nothing fiscally responsible about the Trump administration.

Trump was already raising prices on things through his tariffs, it just didn’t hit right away.

So once again a democrat cleans up the mess the republicans made just to get blamed for that mess.

Both sides are not the same.

[Downunder Dolphan]

As you can guess, I'm not exactly a Trump fan (even though I probably do the best Trump impersonation in the Southern hemisphere. Seriously. I reckon I'm going to get a lot of mileage out of it the next four years too, if the world doesn't blow itself up)

But that Biden interview was a train wreck in slow motion. There is a one word answer to that hot mess - unelectable. The brain freezes and waffling were Mitch McConnell (ready for the nursing home) level of cringe-worthy. It's way too late for the Democrats to do anything about it, they've made this bed and here they will lie. It's got to be damage limitation from now on, changing the Canditate now is just plain stupid and asking for more carnage at the ballot box.

On the other hand, I have to hand it to Trump and his advisors. He didn't get sucked in by the baiting during the debate, stuck to the script, and did not wing any of it. If he continues with that, he just cannot lose.

I fear for the future of Western Europe (especially Ukraine) but I'm already resigned to a Trump victory.

[Sunstroke]

Honestly, I'm just hoping that someone puts a bullet in Trump's noggin before the election...

[Denver2]

Honestly, I'm just hoping that someone puts a bullet in Trump's noggin before the election...

lol same

I wish the CIA or the “deep state” would make themselves useful for once…

[Spider-Dan]

Honestly, I'm just hoping that someone puts a bullet in Trump's noggin before the election...

If either of these candidates are assassinated, things will get much worse in a hurry.
There would be at least a 50% chance that we turn into Russia in less than 2 years.

[Sunstroke]

There would be at least a 50% chance that we turn into Russia in less than 2 years.

...that sounds like a totally made up opinion (though the "at least a 50% chance" and "within two years" are nice touches).

That said, with all due respect to your dystopian musings, I'd still be willing to roll the dice on that bullet...