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« on: July 17, 2024, 01:17:26 pm »

Many Republicans have moved to Florida since 2020.

If Biden wins in 2024, it's going to happen even more.

I'm just curious, could Ron DeSantis secure Florida's borders and institute immigration rules like Trump did and tried to do after he won in 2016.

I can imagine state borders would be MUCH harder to secure than national borders.

Edit:  I mean secure the border from other Americans.  If too many people FROM THIS COUNTRY want to move to Florida, it could overcrowded.  This might make DeSantis want to limit the amount of people moving to Florida.  He has already made it clear that illegals are not welcome in his state under any circumstances.  
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2024, 01:20:11 pm »

It is unconstitutional to restrict transit between states, and law enforcement jurisdiction of the waters outside Florida belongs to the federal government (Coast Guard), not the state.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2024, 02:44:07 pm »

Immigration policy is set at the Federal not state level, despite what Abbot and DeSantos claim. 

BTW you sound as stupid as the person the other day I heard talking about how we need to crack down the number of Puerto Ricans who illegally immigrate to the US. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2024, 03:22:39 pm »

It's also worth mentioning that Florida has no land border with another country, which is why DeSantis chose to reach out to Texas to find some legal immigrants to ship to Massachusetts for his earlier xenophobic (and illegal) stunt.

Now, he could have fraudulently misled and transported legal Cuban immigrants without leaving Florida to find them, but that wouldn't have sent the intended message.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2024, 10:31:00 am »

Secure the border from who?  Georgians?  What is the goal of this question?  Who are you trying to keep out (or in)?
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2024, 03:58:10 pm »

It is unconstitutional....

That never stopped them before...

But in reality Florida is already overcrowded and I'm over it.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2024, 07:11:16 pm »

Edit:  I mean secure the border from other Americans.  If too many people FROM THIS COUNTRY want to move to Florida, it could overcrowded.  This might make DeSantis want to limit the amount of people moving to Florida.
This is not even remotely plausible, to say nothing of legal.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2024, 10:20:46 am »

You couldn't "secure the border" but you could probably, constitutionally, preference residents of your state v. non-residents, thus making moving to whatever state less feasible from a logistics/economic standpoint and make it less appealing to move to.

There are rumblings in my own state of this going on, though I haven't seen it (blatantly) in state-level policy yet. In my own town, they messed with the tree ordinance to make development almost impossible, and put a moratorium on apartments of a certain height, due to the "historic character" of the place. That's definitely slowed the movement of people to the Charleston area, and presumably you could do something akin to this on the state level.

No idea if there's a SCOTUS case that strikes this kind of activity down, however.
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2024, 09:31:25 am »

You couldn't "secure the border" but you could probably, constitutionally, preference residents of your state v. non-residents, thus making moving to whatever state less feasible from a logistics/economic standpoint and make it less appealing to move to.

There are rumblings in my own state of this going on, though I haven't seen it (blatantly) in state-level policy yet. In my own town, they messed with the tree ordinance to make development almost impossible, and put a moratorium on apartments of a certain height, due to the "historic character" of the place. That's definitely slowed the movement of people to the Charleston area, and presumably you could do something akin to this on the state level.

No idea if there's a SCOTUS case that strikes this kind of activity down, however.

Almost any move a state could make to discourage people form moving to the state would also make life more difficult for the people who already live there and discourage them to move elsewhere.     

What states can and often do is enact policies to discourage certain sub-populations from living in the state.  Florida actively discourages gay people from moving there, Nevada is quite welcoming.  This could result in Florida getting redder and Nevada getting bluer. 
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