Pete Rose dead at 83

[Sibster]

Charlie Hustle has gone to that big ballpark in the sky.  R.I.P.

[masterfins]

Now they'll let him in the Hall of Fame.

Although I'm a Yankees fan I really liked watching those Reds teams of the '70s.  RIP

[Sibster]

I agree.  The Veterans Committee will let him in posthumously

[Phishfan]

I think we will need to see a change in commissioner before he becomes eligible.

[Dave Gray]

I don't really care about baseball, much less the baseball Hall of Fame.  I sorta-kinda-not-really understood baseball's position about leaving Pete Rose out of things because of betting.  But I think that with all the steroid stuff, they really lost their moral highground and they probably should've re-evaluated some of that stuff.  Also, gambling is such a part of the sports culture nowadays and there really isn't evidence to suggest that he bet as a player or against him team.  I just think the harshness and meanness of the penalty looks petty, the longer it went on.

[masterfins]

I don't really care about baseball, much less the baseball Hall of Fame.  I sorta-kinda-not-really understood baseball's position about leaving Pete Rose out of things because of betting.  But I think that with all the steroid stuff, they really lost their moral high ground and they probably should've re-evaluated some of that stuff. 

The odd thing is that the Steroid players actually did a lot more to harm the reputation of baseball, versus Pete's gambling, yet those steroid players are allowed on the Hall of Fame Ballots and Pete's not.

[Spider-Dan]

The steroid era saved baseball.

[Dave Gray]

The steroid era saved baseball.

I just find a grossness to how MLB used that steroid race to keep their sport relevant and then they wanted to act all aghast when it broke.  Their whole "integrity of the game" stuff is a farce.

[Sibster]

The steroid era saved baseball.

Until it was exposed as a steroid era.   Kinda like back in the late 2000s when Nevin Shapiro was in good with all the Canes players and helping them out money-wise with rent, car repairs, abortions etc... and they were all like, "Nevin is a great guy".  Then he gets busted for running a Ponzi Scheme.

I have no love for those with no integrity.  Don't give me that shit.

[Spider-Dan]

Until it was exposed as a steroid era.

Baseball retained nearly all of its steroid-era popularity after the exposure.  The goal was accomplished; better to ask forgiveness than permission.

[Sibster]

Baseball retained nearly all of its steroid-era popularity after the exposure.  The goal was accomplished; better to ask forgiveness than permission.

Asking for forgiveness rather than permission is never a good thing in my book.   And the popularity you speak of actually waned to a point where hockey almost overtook baseball in popularity.   Now you have baseball's most hallowed record held by a convicted felon and none of the suspected steroid users are getting into Cooperstown.   The writers will not allow it.  That's a huge black eye that lasted for years.   Only now is baseball starting to regain its popularity.