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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2024, 12:36:05 pm »

I'll tell you what, Democrats have got to stop choosing women to run, it's a losing formula I'm convinced now.
I doubt we will see another female nominee in our lifetime.
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2024, 06:18:50 pm »

This is not at all about Democrats.  America wanted Trump.



Respectfully I disagree.  Yes there are a very large contingent of people that just wanted Trump, BUT the reason he won is because the Democrats are doing a shitty job.  As the old saying goes "It's the economy stupid" (I don't mean your stupid).
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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2024, 08:26:27 pm »

Harris just wasn't a good candidate and came off as shady and the numbers reflect that. The left didn't even try to find a suitable replacement for Biden. It's interesting that the left always complained about the electoral college and wanted to switch to the popular vote and Trump blew her out of the water in both. I don't know how many times I've heard that "The Republicans will never win the popular vote again." The fact is that the vast majority of people (left & right) are mostly concerned about the economy and financial markets. I sure as hell won't complain about my investment accounts going up $38k in the last 3 days.
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2024, 10:12:46 pm »

I'm not.   I own two liquor stores.  One in Orange City and one in Deland.

I really don't think it would have affected business for you. If anyone was going to go California sober they can just get a medical card easily.
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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2024, 07:07:09 am »

I really don't think it would have affected business for you. If anyone was going to go California sober they can just get a medical card easily.

The hell it wouldn't have.   A lot of bar and liquor store owners fought tooth and nail against this.  You want a buzz, grab a beer or a frozen drink.   Still want weed?   Go see your doctor and pay the $75 to get a medical card.
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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2024, 09:15:59 am »

The hell it wouldn't have.   A lot of bar and liquor store owners fought tooth and nail against this.  You want a buzz, grab a beer or a frozen drink.   Still want weed?   Go see your doctor and pay the $75 to get a medical card.

I live in new england, weed is legal recreationally .. hell there's 3 dispensaries within 3 miles of my house, bars are doing just fine .. drinking and smoking aren't mutually exclusive.  People will fight to keep the status quo because change is scary .. that's all that there is here.
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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2024, 10:21:24 am »

I have not been super vocal about local politics in my life -- I've been under GOP supermajority here for decades, but whatever -- not my preference that some company is dumping sugar water and fucking up the coast and the economy there, but I'll deal.  But in about the last 10 years, they have bungled the shit out this State.  We are severely fucked up right now.  Home prices, corporations buying houses and renting for crazy prices, insurance -- this is real stuff. My friends literally cannot live here.  There's no path to purchase property unless you're already filthy rich.  It's a rent spiral.

There is no legislation attempting to address any of this.
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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2024, 02:00:04 pm »

History could judge this as the worst election since March 5, 1933.

Trump is more erratic than he was 8 years ago.  All the sane people who tempered him last time won't be serving in his administration this time.  With control of both house and Senate and free reign from the s. Ct it will be much worse this time.
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« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2024, 04:31:19 pm »

I doubt we will see another female nominee in our lifetime.

I don’t think we have another election period, at least one that isn’t some Putin-esque farce
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« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2024, 04:46:58 pm »

History could judge this as the worst election since March 5, 1933.

Trump is more erratic than he was 8 years ago.  All the sane people who tempered him last time won't be serving in his administration this time.  With control of both house and Senate and free reign from the s. Ct it will be much worse this time.

Much worse what?
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« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2024, 07:41:25 pm »

Offhand, I think he means "much worse than hundreds of thousands of Americans needlessly dead, a collapsed economy, and a violent mob seizing the seat of the federal government."
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« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2024, 08:57:51 pm »

I live in new england, weed is legal recreationally .. hell there's 3 dispensaries within 3 miles of my house, bars are doing just fine .. drinking and smoking aren't mutually exclusive.  People will fight to keep the status quo because change is scary .. that's all that there is here.

Same in NYS, weed has had no effect on bars and liquor stores.
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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2024, 09:12:55 am »

Offhand, I think he means "much worse than hundreds of thousands of Americans needlessly dead, a collapsed economy, and a violent mob seizing the seat of the federal government."
It's foolish to think that 1 person could be responsible for those things happening. I've lived through 10 presidents with Trump being the 11th and one thing that I've learned is that any particular POTUS doesn't affect my day to day personal life to any great extent. Life goes on...
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« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2024, 09:38:45 am »

The hell it wouldn't have.   A lot of bar and liquor store owners fought tooth and nail against this.  You want a buzz, grab a beer or a frozen drink.   Still want weed?   Go see your doctor and pay the $75 to get a medical card.

Have to admit, I chuckled a bit when I read this. As a freelance writer for 15+ years with the largest organization in support of marijuana legalization (NORML, The National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws), I think you're fighting a losing battle. Marijuana is soon to be removed from Schedule 1 of the CSA, and then it will be as mainstream as having a beer.

And, yeah...I have my medical card in 3 different states. I just don't have to use it any more, as it is recreationally legal in my state, and the dispensary is a short 2-block walk away.

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« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2024, 08:06:02 pm »

It's foolish to think that 1 person could be responsible for those things happening. I've lived through 10 presidents with Trump being the 11th and one thing that I've learned is that any particular POTUS doesn't affect my day to day personal life to any great extent.
I wasn't in NYC in September 2001, so my day-to-day personal life wasn't affected.  Nevertheless, the events that followed seemed relevant in the 2004 and 2008 elections.

One can make the argument that the choice of president isn't really that important, but I don't think that argument is really compatible with claims that "the border crisis has exploded since Biden took office" or "Biden fucked up the Afghanistan pullout and got our people killed" or "Biden's inflation crisis is here."

In fact, it seems like the only time the "It doesn't really even matter who the president is, things would still be the same anyway" rationale is offered is when it's time to make excuses for another one of Trump's failures.
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