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« Reply #75 on: February 05, 2025, 08:27:14 am »

Here's another agreement during the Biden Adminstration, where Mexico pledges to "maintain" 10,000 troops at the border without being issued a threat to detonate North America's economy.

But hey, at least Trump did force Canada to spend $1.3B on border security!
Oh, wait, they agreed to that with the Biden Administration, back in December.

Art of the Deal!
There is no way you don't get your info from MSNBC and CNN. I swear those are their exact talking points. ... almost verbatim. Apparently no one cares about details as long as you can argue semantics that really have no meaning in the current situation.
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« Reply #76 on: February 05, 2025, 08:32:26 am »

is your argument that Spider is using facts from news sources as facts?

With regards to canada and mexico i think Trump's role is exactly the same as indiana jones' role in raiders of the lost ark. Remove him from the movie entirely and you get the exact same result.
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« Reply #77 on: February 05, 2025, 12:24:59 pm »

I see through this but it's gonna work.

Manufacture crisis --> avoid crisis by pulling back whatever crazy stance you started with, while claiming victory (this gets everyone upset and arguing, like this thread) --> meanwhile, grift and sell America, undermine systems, gain power


You're seeing it now with the crazy stance he has on Gaza.  He isn't going to do that stuff.  He'll do some performative thing that makes everyone mad, claim he fixed it or averted a tragedy (everyone will be up in arms and we'll all argue about it).  Meanwhile, he'll be tearing down democracy and enriching himself through legal bribery.

I'm trying to only pay attention to what he does and not what he says he's gonna do, but I admit -- it's really hard.  I'm like a moth to the flame.
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« Reply #78 on: February 05, 2025, 01:22:07 pm »

There is no way you don't get your info from MSNBC and CNN. I swear those are their exact talking points. ... almost verbatim.
For the record, the sources I just linked were:

1) Associated Press
2) the Canadian government

I guess not every outlet has the kind of journalistic integrity found at the Daily Mail!
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« Reply #79 on: February 05, 2025, 06:21:05 pm »

I see through this but it's gonna work.

Manufacture crisis --> avoid crisis by pulling back whatever crazy stance you started with, while claiming victory (this gets everyone upset and arguing, like this thread) --> meanwhile, grift and sell America, undermine systems, gain power


You're seeing it now with the crazy stance he has on Gaza.  He isn't going to do that stuff.  He'll do some performative thing that makes everyone mad, claim he fixed it or averted a tragedy (everyone will be up in arms and we'll all argue about it).  Meanwhile, he'll be tearing down democracy and enriching himself through legal bribery.

I'm trying to only pay attention to what he does and not what he says he's gonna do, but I admit -- it's really hard.  I'm like a moth to the flame.
That's how I take Trump. I truly believe this was his way of trying to get the Arab countries off their butts to rectify the situation. There is no way Israel can live with them getting attacked constantly and it doesn't work out well for the Palestinians either.


For the record, the sources I just linked were:

1) Associated Press
2) the Canadian government

I guess not every outlet has the kind of journalistic integrity found at the Daily Mail!
Kind of funny to see how much money we were paying both Politico and the Associated Press. Both have a very big left wing slant while claiming to be neutral.

 
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« Reply #80 on: February 05, 2025, 06:26:49 pm »

is your argument that Spider is using facts from news sources as facts?

With regards to canada and mexico i think Trump's role is exactly the same as indiana jones' role in raiders of the lost ark. Remove him from the movie entirely and you get the exact same result.
Same result? He just kicked men/boys out of women's sports after already kicking the Chinese out of Panama. He is securing the border, returning illegals, and engaging cartels, and his DOGE committee is exposing billions of dollars of fraud from divisions no one even knew about. Regardless of how you feel about Trump there is no denying there isn't another person out there who gets as much done as fast as he has. He puts people in place to get things done.
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« Reply #81 on: February 06, 2025, 10:42:53 am »

Same result? He just kicked men/boys out of women's sports after already kicking the Chinese out of Panama. He is securing the border, returning illegals, and engaging cartels, and his DOGE committee is exposing billions of dollars of fraud from divisions no one even knew about. Regardless of how you feel about Trump there is no denying there isn't another person out there who gets as much done as fast as he has. He puts people in place to get things done.

Not to mention he's putting people in the FDA that are exposing the fact that food companies are adding more and more additives/preservatives to their product that weren't there in the 70s and 80s, and it's causing a lot more problems with child behaviors.
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