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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2025, 08:37:35 am »

Ohio State would be out if it had only been 4 teams. The playoff is working just fine. Tonight's game could add to that. The best thing for me is that we have more meaningful games regardless of outcome. No one cares about the majority of these Bowl games any longer.



Cop out. None of that is going on right now. Those are off-season discussions. I'm sure a 4-8 record has nothing to do with it.
Not true. He said agents were contacting him and requesting million dollar offers to discuss their client. Other coaches have said this as well. Regardless of how people think about players getting paid  ... the process is out of control.

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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2025, 08:49:14 am »

Apparently I haven't heard any of the legends that made him a "Legendary Miami men's basketball coach."


Hahaha  .. you may want to let all of the South Florida sports reporters know that he has not received that level of respect. I'm guessing the ACC Championships, ACC coaches of the year awards, Elite 8 appearances and being the only coach to get the team to the Final 4 has a lot of people respecting him.
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2025, 01:14:58 pm »

I guess Larranaga is a "legend" in South Florida?  I imagine the coach who brought a national championship to UCF is also a "legend" in central Florida.

In any case, this "legendary coach" is as soft as wet tissue paper.  He can't handle a world where his players are being fairly compensated for the value they are bringing to his program?  Cry me a river.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2025, 01:33:18 pm »

I guess Larranaga is a "legend" in South Florida?  I imagine the coach who brought a national championship to UCF is also a "legend" in central Florida.

In any case, this "legendary coach" is as soft as wet tissue paper.  He can't handle a world where his players are being fairly compensated for the value they are bringing to his program?  Cry me a river.

UCF doesn't have a championship in any major sport so I assume you mean Scott Frost who coached the undefeated football team. No one really talks about him at all that I hear.
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2025, 01:41:56 pm »

UCF doesn't have a championship in any major sport so I assume you mean Scott Frost who coached the undefeated football team.


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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2025, 01:42:31 pm »

Ok. I am from another country casually observing this (for tow decades or three) very casually as my primary focus is NFL, but I am kind of confused.

So with one game to go in the new expended playoff system, of the three semi-final games played all of the underdogs (lesser ranked teams) have won. If Notre Dame beats Georgia, then the whole thing has flipped on its head going in.

Isn't this supposed to be a good thing? Where the arbitrary rankings of sports media is overridden by... the best teams actually winning in a head to head contest? Am I missing something here?

You are missing an important piece, the playoff rankings were arbitrary. The top four seeds were selected by winning their conference championship game. It didn't matter how they were sitting in the rankings before that so you could have been a higher seed in the playoffs but finished the season rankings below a team you were higher than in the playoffs.
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2025, 01:44:17 pm »



I've seen t-shirts also. You can print anything you have the money for.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2025, 01:48:16 pm »

I've seen t-shirts also. You can print anything you have the money for.  Roll Eyes
It's Official: NCAA Recognizes UCF as 2017 National Champions

As far as the NCAA is concerned, UCF is one of the multiple national champions in 2017, just like LSU and USC in 2003, or Michigan and Nebraska in 1997.
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2025, 02:00:03 pm »

It's Official: NCAA Recognizes UCF as 2017 National Champions

As far as the NCAA is concerned, UCF is one of the multiple national champions in 2017, just like LSU and USC in 2003, or Michigan and Nebraska in 1997.

As far as the NCAA is concerned it recognizes the Colley Matrx recognizes UCF as national champions which is about as legitimate as printing the t-shirt I mentioned
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2025, 02:20:40 pm »

UCF doesn't have a championship in any major sport so I assume you mean Scott Frost who coached the undefeated football team. No one really talks about him at all that I hear.
We just rehired him so technically everyone sports related locally have been talking about him.

I thought he had a great quote about being back here. “When you're climbing the ladder of success in life, sometimes they forget to tell you to stop when you're happy.”
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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2025, 03:03:10 pm »

Notre Dame never has a chance in hell of winning the championship and yet they have been gifted shot after shot.

The point is not whether a Cinderella team will actually win the whole thing; it's more about Cinderella teams knocking out big-time programs.
All three teams who received byes in the Top 4 have been eliminated so chances are fairly high.  If #6 Notre Dame beats #2 Georgia it will be a guarantee. #'s 1, 3, & 4 are done while #5, 6, and 8 are still in play.
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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2025, 06:08:20 pm »

As far as the NCAA is concerned it recognizes the Colley Matrx recognizes UCF as national champions which is about as legitimate as printing the t-shirt I mentioned
The NCAA official record lists UCF as one of the national champions in 2017.  You can rationalize that away in whatever manner you like, but it's a fact.

More importantly, the current system is designed to prevent such a thing from happening again.  Instead of the national championship simply being anointed, it will be something closer to legitimately earned.
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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2025, 10:49:44 pm »

The NCAA official record lists UCF as one of the national champions in 2017.  You can rationalize that away in whatever manner you like, but it's a fact.


The funny thing is I'm not rationalizing. The NCAA does no such thing. You linked to some UCF Black and Gold fans items that gave you a snapshot with a BS story. That glimpse you see of UCF on whatever page he says is under the heading "Final National Poll Leaders" which means exactly as I said, the NCAA recognizes the Colley Matrix had them at the top. The two section headings "National Poll Champions in Bowl Games" and "Consensus National Champions " both list Alabama and do not mention UCF at all. You should look straight at the source material and not rely on a fan boy site.
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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2025, 12:49:32 am »


Apparently, the legend continues...   Grin

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« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2025, 01:23:26 am »

The funny thing is I'm not rationalizing. The NCAA does no such thing. You linked to some UCF Black and Gold fans items that gave you a snapshot with a BS story. That glimpse you see of UCF on whatever page he says is under the heading "Final National Poll Leaders" which means exactly as I said, the NCAA recognizes the Colley Matrix had them at the top. The two section headings "National Poll Champions in Bowl Games" and "Consensus National Champions " both list Alabama and do not mention UCF at all. You should look straight at the source material and not rely on a fan boy site.
First things first: I acknowledge that the widely-recognized system in place in 2017 selected Alabama as the national champions without allowing undefeated UCF to play... which is precisely the point.  We just saw the top 4 seeds in the playoff all lose their first game.  The idea that upsets happen in college basketball literally every year (which is the primary draw of the NCAA Tournament!) but would somehow be impossible in college football is just ludicrous.  Blue blood teams like Alabama have been protected for decades, and that protection is at an end.

Now, as to the substance of your response: the "Final National Poll Leaders" ARE the national champions.  That's precisely what a "national championship" is in FBS!  Winning the College Football Playoff, or the BCS Championship before it, does not make you a "national champion;" the pollsters voting for you after you win it does.  And UCF is not listed as a "consensus national champion" because they weren't a consensus champion, nor did they claim to be.

The NCAA record book recognizes Colley as a "National Champion Major Selector" and states, "The criteria for being included in this historical list of poll selectors is that the poll be national in scope, either through distribution in newspaper, television, radio and/or computer online. The list includes both former selectors, who were instrumental in the sport of college football, and selectors who were among the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) selectors."  Colley was one of the polls used in BCS rankings.  UCF was the "Final National Poll Leader" for Colley, and therefore were the national champions according to one of the official polls recognized by the NCAA.  That is simply fact.

Now, if you want to say that Colley doesn't really count... fine!  I agree that the powers in control of the shitty system that was in place declared that an undefeated team can simply be presumed to be worse than the mighty SEC teams who would never lose to inferior opponents.

Just be glad that the same system isn't in place in the NFL, because if it was, New England would have an undefeated championship under their belt.
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