Pornhub blocked for Florida residents

[CF DolFan]

It's an unreasonable violation of my rights to "protect" your kids.  ...which doesn't protect them anyway.  These Project 2025 bozos are so full of shit.  They want porn illegal.  They don't give a shit about kids.

I get you guys are really progressive but please stop bringing up Project 2025 like its relevant. It's been debunked so may times I can't count.  It's an ideology of a minority of Republicans and not the elected people's agenda. You sound just as crazy as the extreme MAGA who thinks anyone who disagrees with anything Trump is a RHINO or the Leftist who say dating kids or abortion up to date of delivery should be legal. It's an extreme opinion that kind of makes you sound crazy not capable of being rationale.

[Dave Gray]

I mean.  The people who were in his appointed circle wrote down what they wanted to do and their motivations for doing it in great detail.  Trump might not carry out every little thing but the people who ran the administration literally put out their agenda.  It's not debunked at all.  And it's not like Trump did this shit in Florida.  These are the same Republicans who wrote that manifesto.

And there is a very clear section about what to do with porn and now these actions align with that.  They tell you what they want to do and then you call me crazy when they do it?  Okay, I guess.

[Dave Gray]

I don't even want to get sidetracked about P25.

And this isn't just Republicans.  A bunch of Dems voted for this "think of the children" bullshit without having an understanding of what it means in practice.

I really am fed up with my State.  We've gotten progressively worse here for like 25 years.  There are major issues to address and there is so much money and corruption that I finally realized that it's by design.  These people are just getting rich off of each other.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

If you actually believe that this law will actually prevent teens from accessing porn I have some ocean view property to sell in Orlando

[CF DolFan]

If you actually believe that this law will actually prevent teens from accessing porn I have some ocean view property to sell in Orlando

While I agree with you I must point out that you're a person who thinks banning guns will stop bad people from getting them. This law will keep most 10 and under and a lot of teens out and currently that isn't happening.

[CF DolFan]

I really am fed up with my State.  We've gotten progressively worse here for like 25 years.  There are major issues to address and there is so much money and corruption that I finally realized that it's by design.  These people are just getting rich off of each other.

Not that its a surprise but I completely disagree. We are trending towards the Florida I grew up in which has been deteriorating over the last 25 years or so with the arrival of so many outsiders. It's gotten to where no one feels safe in the cities any longer even here in Orlando. That's not a good thing.

[Dave Gray]

^ You're not making sense.

I said it's been getting worse over 25 years.
Then you disagreed and said it's been deteriorating over the last 25 years.


Those mean the same thing.

[Denver2]

While I agree with you I must point out that you're a person who thinks banning guns will stop bad people from getting them. This law will keep most 10 and under and a lot of teens out and currently that isn't happening.

I’m a pro 2A lefty because we need to protect ourselves from right wingers but there is no comparison between guns and porn, America has a violence problem largely because of guns that European countries don’t have to deal with.

When is the last time there’s been a mass shooting in these countries? What are the overall numbers of incidents compared to the USA over the last 25 years? How many victims of  gun violence a year compared to us?

I live in America and the reality is I want my people to be armed for self defense, and gun control will never happen here so it’s a losing a stance politically, but gun control absolutely works in its goal of preventing gun violence.

With VPNs and other tech these anti porn requirements will not stop kids from viewing it if they want it badly enough, preventing your kids from seeing smut is a parents responsibility anyway. This is clearly just forcing Christian morality on the population.

[Denver2]

And Dave is right, it’s not if, it’s when the databases will be compromised not if! Nothing is more of blackmail and extortion material than what makes you horny. Of course it will be targeted relentlessly by hackers and criminal organizations hiring hackers and governments hiring hackers lol

As soon as the database of ID’s reaches a certain number of entries it will be targeted by everyone on the planet who wants to make a buck and has some computer hacking skills and no matter how hard you try to defend it someone will breach.

Terrible ideas, terrible precedent. Call me as dramatic as a 16 year old lol but these next few years gonna be rough bro

[masterfins]

IMO this is a violation of HIPPA laws.  Most men only use video porn for masturbation, which is only done for good prostate health; and trying to avoid getting prostate cancer.  So by requesting this information it violates the person's rights to medical privacy.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

While I agree with you I must point out that you're a person who thinks banning guns will stop bad people from getting them. This law will keep most 10 and under and a lot of teens out and currently that isn't happening.

That is a false statement.  I don't think banning guns will stop bad people from getting them.  I have never supported a blanket ban on guns.  What I do support is banning ghost guns - but that is not because it will prevent their existence but because it will make it easier to confiscate and being the purpose of ghost guns are as a tool for criminal activity making the possession of a ghost a crime allows law enforcement to use having such tools of criminal activity a crime.  Similar with armor piercing bullets.   I support requiring all gun transfers to be registered -- end the gun show loophole. I support attaching criminal and civil liability to gun owners who improperly store their fire arms if the fire arms is subsequently used in a crime.  I support requiring gun owners to be trained in gun safety.   I support greater regulation of guns not their outright ban.

As for protecting children.  What happened to family responsibility?  One of your sides favorite buzz words.  Today parents can easily set up blockers on their browsers preventing the access to these types of sites.  The blockers can be defeated by smart teens, but the same that are going to circumvent this law.

Back in the old days web there were two incidents that happened to friends of mine's kids won't happen today if you simply make sure your web browser is set to safe mode.

The first was a 7 year old who was doing a report on woodland mammals and searched for "beaver picture"  and got results that were confusing.

The second were 10 year olds who received gift cards to a sporting goods store and searched on "Dicks toys" 

I fully support requiring browser defaults to prevent the above problems unless one makes an effort to turn them off. 

Also I want porn to be segmented enough that looking for topless women doesn't accidentally result in seeing a video of bestiality.    But if a 14 year old knows they want to see what fornication looks like and is mature/smart enough to turn off the safe search tools I don't feel it is the governments job to stop that. 

Florida wants to protect kids from seeing of sex but are perfectly okay with kids seeing acts of violence. 

[Spider-Dan]

While I agree with you I must point out that you're a person who thinks banning guns will stop bad people from getting them.

Probably because this works quite well in every other industrialized country.

This law will keep most 10 and under and a lot of teens out and currently that isn't happening.

A gun is a physical product that can only be physically possessed by one person at a time.
Porn is intangible content that can be viewed and shared by millions of people.
One teen that gets his hands on one gun still only has one gun.  The same teen who downloads one porn video can EASILY give a copy of that video to every single one of his friends.  It is not even remotely comparable.

You cannot seriously be so naive as to believe that this law will actually prevent teenagers from accessing porn.  It will always be easier for teens to view porn than it is for them to drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes (something they have done easily for longer than any of us have been alive), and it makes no sense to even try to argue otherwise.

[CF DolFan]

^ You're not making sense.

I said it's been getting worse over 25 years.
Then you disagreed and said it's been deteriorating over the last 25 years.


Those mean the same thing.

Oops sorry. I misread that.

[CF DolFan]

I’m a pro 2A lefty because we need to protect ourselves from right wingers but there is no comparison between guns and porn, America has a violence problem largely because of guns that European countries don’t have to deal with.

When is the last time there’s been a mass shooting in these countries? What are the overall numbers of incidents compared to the USA over the last 25 years? How many victims of  gun violence a year compared to us?

I live in America and the reality is I want my people to be armed for self defense, and gun control will never happen here so it’s a losing a stance politically, but gun control absolutely works in its goal of preventing gun violence.

With VPNs and other tech these anti porn requirements will not stop kids from viewing it if they want it badly enough, preventing your kids from seeing smut is a parents responsibility anyway. This is clearly just forcing Christian morality on the population.

I get some people think politicians and celebs own everything here but unlike other countries the American people actually own this country and guns are how they keep it. It's why it was so important to call it out in the Amendments. If it weren't for guns Americans would have been arrested and put into camps like Austrailians when Covid hit.

Drugs are illegal but we cannot control them and that isn't even debatable. Somehow people use the same logic to pretend it would work differently for guns ... but then again ...  they aren't willing to give up their cars because drunk drivers kill people too.

[CF DolFan]

Probably because this works quite well in every other industrialized country.
A gun is a physical product that can only be physically possessed by one person at a time.
Porn is intangible content that can be viewed and shared by millions of people.
One teen that gets his hands on one gun still only has one gun.  The same teen who downloads one porn video can EASILY give a copy of that video to every single one of his friends.  It is not even remotely comparable.

You cannot seriously be so naive as to believe that this law will actually prevent teenagers from accessing porn.  It will always be easier for teens to view porn than it is for them to drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes (something they have done easily for longer than any of us have been alive), and it makes no sense to even try to argue otherwise.

You literally said banning guns will prevent them from getting them but banning porn will have no effect in the same post. We should make drugs illegal too so they won't get them either. LMAO