Hyde: Miami Dolphins were soft at the top with Grier, McDaniel

[Dolfanalyst]

The "Pee Wee Herman" take is most definitely something you developed while the Dolphins were losing.

Call it "silly and goofy" as I did originally in February of 2022, right after McDaniel was hired (as noted at the link above), or call it Pee Wee Herman.  What's the difference?  Pee Wee Herman is merely a shorthand that's more understandable for people.

I would post your attempts to defend your take on coaching demeanor during times when the Dolphins were winning, but your MO is to only show up when the Dolphins are losing; a look back at your posting history during any Dolphins winning streak shows you are simply not present.  So you get to skip that whole accountability part of having a take.

When I post and don't post is irrelevant to whether McDaniel has accomplished anything distinctive as an NFL head coach -- he hasn't.  It seems you (erroneously) believe he has, however, and so apparently that's the difficulty you're having in following along with the topic.

[Spider-Dan]

When I post and don't post is irrelevant to whether McDaniel has accomplished anything distinctive as an NFL head coach -- he hasn't.

It is, however, relevant to whether you accept accountability for your takes when they are shown to be wrong... which you don't.

If the only time you appear is when you can try to say "I told you so" with minimal pushback, your words ring hollow.  Because when your takes have been shown to be wrong, you simply disappear until such time that you can avoid having to explain what your error was.  So you certainly have plenty to say today about "Pee Wee Herman" and "soft mentalities," but if MIA wins a playoff game next year, it's not like you'll show up and admit you were wrong... you'll just disappear until the next time the Dolphins start losing again.

There is very little value in the "analysis" of a person who never accepts accountability when they get it wrong.

[Dolfanalyst]

It is, however, relevant to whether you accept accountability for your takes when they are shown to be wrong... which you don't.

If the only time you appear is when you can try to say "I told you so" with minimal pushback, your words ring hollow.  Because when your takes have been shown to be wrong, you simply disappear until such time that you can avoid having to explain what your error was.  So you certainly have plenty to say today about "Pee Wee Herman" and "soft mentalities," but if MIA wins a playoff game next year, it's not like you'll show up and admit you were wrong... you'll just disappear until the next time the Dolphins start losing again.

There is very little value in the "analysis" of a person who never accepts accountability when they get it wrong.

Again you're illustrating why you can't follow along here.  I haven't been wrong, because McDaniel hasn't done anything distinctive as a head coach.  So there is no need to come in here and say "I was wrong" with regard to my original perspective about McDaniel from February of 2022, because McDaniel has done nothing to date to controvert that.

You're obviously lost in some sort of "McDaniel fantasy," in which he's demonstrated some distinctive level of success in your mind he hasn't in reality.

[Spider-Dan]

You cannot vanish when the Dolphins are doing well, wait until they start losing again to reappear, and expect your "I haven't been wrong" claims to be taken seriously.

It's not even that you were wrong; everyone here has been wrong before.
Nor is it that you left for a while and came back; plenty of others have done the same.
It's that you have repeatedly disappeared when the results have made your "analysis" look particularly terrible, and then you miraculously reappear precisely when you think your opinions have become defensible again.

If you only show up to say "I told you so" but disappear when it's your turn to hear it, you should expect your opinions to be dismissed.  Maybe McDaniel is a good coach; maybe he isn't.  But you're in no position to comment with integrity, because any time there are results that prove you wrong, you vanish.

[Dolfanalyst]

You cannot vanish when the Dolphins are doing well, wait until they start losing again to reappear, and expect your "I haven't been wrong" claims to be taken seriously.

It's not even that you were wrong; everyone here has been wrong before.
Nor is it that you left for a while and came back; plenty of others have done the same.
It's that you have repeatedly disappeared when the results have made your "analysis" look particularly terrible, and then you miraculously reappear precisely when you think your opinions have become defensible again.

Obviously you have some sort of intransigence with regard to McDaniel, borne of your own personal fantasy about him.  Nobody who thought McDaniel's ability to be a highly successful head coach in the NFL is doubtful has been wrong with regard to that at any point in his tenure with the Dolphins.  He simply hasn't yet distinguished himself as a highly successful head coach, and he may never.

If it's a "message board credibility" war you're after here, have at it -- I'm not interested.  You win.  You're the greatest.  All hail "Spider-Dan."

[Spider-Dan]

It's not just about McDaniel; it's also about Tannehill and Tua.

You had a lot of haughty analysis about the shortcomings of all three, and yet when Tannehill was getting MVP votes and taking the Titans to the AFCCG, when Tua was leading the league in passer rating or was named a Pro Bowl starter, or when McDaniel took the team to the playoffs for the first time in 6 years, you weren't around to eat crow.  You simply vanished until there was a better time to offer the same criticisms you had before.

And even with all that, if you were here arguing that McDaniel needs to go because the Dolphins were a losing team this year, then that would be one thing.  I don't agree, but I understand that just as winning is the ultimate deodorant, there's no such thing as a quality loser; when you don't produce wins, you deserve criticism.  It's the armchair therapist psychobabble that I object to: not critiques of his gameplanning, or his talent evaluation, but claims that he is "soft" and "too much like Pee Wee Herman."  This is mysticism... it's fact-free.

Talk about schemes.
Talk about personnel packages.
Talk about football.
Leave this "he's not mentally tough" nonsense by the wayside.  It's garbage.

[Dolfanalyst]

It's not just about McDaniel; it's also about Tannehill and Tua.

You had a lot of haughty analysis about the shortcomings of all three, and yet when Tannehill was taking the Titans to the AFCCG, or when Tua was leading the league in passer rating, or when McDaniel took the team to the playoffs for the first time in 6 years, you weren't around to eat crow.  You simply vanished until there was a better time to offer the same criticisms you had before.

And even with all that, if you were here arguing that McDaniel needs to go because the Dolphins were a losing team this year, then that would be one thing.  I don't agree, but I understand that just as winning is the ultimate deodorant, there's no such thing as a quality loser; when you don't produce wins, you deserve criticism.  It's the armchair therapist psychobabble that I object to: not critiques of his gameplanning, or his talent evaluation, but claims that he is "soft" and "too much like Pee Wee Herman."  This is mysticism... it's fact-free.

Talk about schemes.
Talk about personnel packages.
Talk about football.
Leave this "he's not mentally tough" nonsense by the wayside.  It's garbage.

Wrong again.  I said Tannehill was the beneficiary of relatively rare and transient surrounding factors in Tennessee that allowed him to elevate his performance beyond his norm during that discrete period.  That was borne out and was nothing different from what other otherwise average-level QBs have done in the league for brief periods of time, when their surrounding circumstances were especially favorable.  There was no "crow" to "eat" in that regard.  Tannehill did just what I said he would -- flash upward with elevated performance for a brief period, and then come crashing back down to the average level when his rare and unsustainable surrounding factors inevitably couldn't persist.

Tua I've never taken a strong perspective on either way here.  You must be confusing me with someone else.

But again, you appear to be driven toward sort of "message board credibility" war here.  I've already declared you the winner in that.  Again, all hail "Spider-Dan."  Feel better?

[Downunder Dolphan]

Have the players who missed/were late to meeting been named?

I know it's been implied that Tyreek was possibly one of them (which is a massive black mark considering he's a captain) but no one has been really stuck with the tag. 

I don't think this article has been brought up before - it covers a lot of the same ground from the Grier/McDaniel end of season press interview, but also makes mention of Tyreek & Ramsey regularly showing up after the stretching portion of practice to join their teammates on the field. It made it clear that it wasn't saying that they were the main culprits that were fined regularly, but it sure suggested that there's some evidence for it.

https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/diving-into-the-dolphins-fine-mess-01jh3m4m54sg

[Downunder Dolphan]

I don't think this article has been brought up before - it covers a lot of the same ground from the Grier/McDaniel end of season press interview, but also makes mention of Tyreek & Ramsey regularly showing up after the stretching portion of practice to join their teammates on the field. It made it clear that it wasn't saying that they were the main culprits that were fined regularly, but it sure suggested that there's some evidence for it.

https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/diving-into-the-dolphins-fine-mess-01jh3m4m54sg

Continuing on from the above:

https://www.nfl.com/news/tyreek-hill-wants-to-remain-with-dolphins-issues-public-apology-to-tua-tagovailoa?

"For me, I love to show guys my hard work and my appreciation to them by just going to practice every day, busting my tail, showing up to meetings on time, just doing everything the right way, the exact way a pro is supposed to be, doing the stuff where a No. 1 player is supposed to be," he said. "Being on time, being very coachable, being very attentive in meetings and stuff like that. I think that's the biggest thing I can offer to my teammates and just being that type of leader, what I've been my whole career.

"This year, I'm holding myself to that kinda standard. I want to be the best, and that's kinda what has helped me stay in this league and be successful in this league, just by doing the right thing. I want to continue doing that. I don't want to fall off who I am or who my parents raised me to be."


So by extension, was this an admission by Tyreek himself that he wasn't at that standard last season?