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[CF DolFan]

Holland wants a gig in Philly next season?

Better harden up MF 

LMBO ... that was first thought as well.

[Spider-Dan]

And that difference is largely because Campbell's personality -- what his team takes on -- is consistent with winning at a high level in pro football.

So it's not about whether you're a "goofball," because you can openly compare yourself to a famous character from a comedy movie.  It's about wins and losses, like I said from the very beginning.

Fixating on all this "Pee Wee Herman" nonsense is a waste of time, because Dan Campbell is out here coaching like The Dude and you're clapping wildly.  The only thing that matters is winning.

[Dolfanalyst]

So it's not about whether you're a "goofball," because you can openly compare yourself to a famous character from a comedy movie.  It's about wins and losses, like I said from the very beginning.

Fixating on all this "Pee Wee Herman" nonsense is a waste of time, because Dan Campbell is out here coaching like The Dude and you're clapping wildly.  The only thing that matters is winning.

And if you can scan through a list of the most highly successful coaches in college and pro football history -- you know, the ones who've done lots of "winning" -- and you can find lots of Dan Campbells and not a single Mike McDaniel, then you might figure being a goofball gets in the way of winning, whereas being whatever Dan Campbell is doesn't.

[Spider-Dan]

If putting "The Dude" on the nameplate to your office (in an explicit reference to The Big Lebowski) doesn't qualify as "being a goofball," the term has no meaning.

[Dolfanalyst]

If putting "The Dude" on the nameplate to your office (in an explicit reference to The Big Lebowski) doesn't qualify as "being a goofball," the term has no meaning.

Nobody is confusing Dan Campbell for Mike McDaniel, regardless of what the nameplate on his office says.

[Spider-Dan]

One more thing:

And if you can scan through a list of the most highly successful coaches in college and pro football history -- you know, the ones who've done lots of "winning" -- and you can find lots of Dan Campbells and not a single Mike McDaniel

So who are these "lots of coaches" who have done something as silly putting a movie character reference on the nameplate to their office?

[Dolfanalyst]

One more thing:

So who are these "lots of coaches" who have done something as silly putting a movie character reference on the nameplate to their office?

Here's a better question:  name a single coach in college or pro football history who's been highly successful and has Mike McDaniel's personality.

[Spider-Dan]

Here's a better question:  name a single coach in college or pro football history who's been highly successful and has Mike McDaniel's personality.

Apparently the answer to your question is Dan Campbell!

I mean, what has McDaniel done that qualifies as goofier than putting a movie character name on your office nameplate?  Why is McDaniel labeled as "Pee Wee Herman" while a coach who self-styles as The Dude is praised as no-nonsense (but somehow still fun-loving)?

[Dolfanalyst]

Apparently the answer to your question is Dan Campbell!

I mean, what has McDaniel done that qualifies as goofier than putting a movie character name on your office nameplate?  Why is McDaniel labeled as "Pee Wee Herman" while a coach who self-styles as The Dude is praised as no-nonsense (but somehow still fun-loving)?

Again, nobody but apparently you is confusing Dan Campbell for Mike McDaniel.

[Fau Teixeira]

Apparently the answer to your question is Dan Campbell!

I mean, what has McDaniel done that qualifies as goofier than putting a movie character name on your office nameplate?  Why is McDaniel labeled as "Pee Wee Herman" while a coach who self-styles as The Dude is praised as no-nonsense (but somehow still fun-loving)?

McDaniel looks like a nerd, Campbell looks like a football player. How could a nerd possibly have what it takes to be successful at the manliest man game.

(that was sarcasm btw, in case it didn't come across)

[Dolfanalyst]

McDaniel looks like a nerd, Campbell looks like a football player. How could a nerd possibly have what it takes to be successful at the manliest man game.

(that was sarcasm btw, in case it didn't come across)

Oddly enough, McDaniel actually doesn't look like a nerd.  He actually appears quite stylish, fashionable, current, and sophisticated.

His personality, however, which involves a far deeper and more meaningful level of functioning than mere appearance, is far different from that of any coach in history who's been highly successful at the college or pro level.

Take a look at this for example:

https://www.tiktok.com/@nfl/video/7439454438915444014

In terms of mere appearance, there is nothing distinguishing Mike McDaniel from Bill Belichick or Nick Saban for example.  In fact you could say McDaniel appears even less nerdy than either of them.

His personality however is vastly different.  They are serious and stern and function with somewhat of an angry "edge" that is palpable to everyone around them, which is highly typical of the most successful head coaches in history (e.g., Don Shula, Vince Lombardi, Chuck Noll, Bear Bryant, Woody Hayes, etc.).

McDaniel on the other hand is generally Pee Wee Herman -- a silly, goofy amateur comedian -- which is consistent with no highly successful head coach in history.

It wouldn't be as noteworthy if McDaniel's personality was somewhere in the middle, like that of John Harbaugh or Mike Tomlin or Andy Reid for example.  But instead his personality is about the opposite of that of the most successful coaches in history.  He's at the complete opposite end of the continuum.

If you're betting on whether a coach like that can be highly successful in the NFL, it wouldn't be wise to stake much of your assets on it -- you'd be betting on something that's never been done before and has zero track record of success.

But this is what the Dolphins' organization at present is betting on, with everything it's got.

[Spider-Dan]

Andy Reid, famous in many television commercials for not being goofy

After mentioning Dan Campbell and Andy Reid by name, the only thing that would make this better is if you singled out Bill Belichick or Sean Payton as coaches well-known for how strictly they adhere to the rulebook.

[Dolfanalyst]

Andy Reid, famous in many television commercials for not being goofy

And here's Bill Cowher being goofy in a commercial:

https://www.facebook.com/BlitzburghJagoff/videos/bill-cowher-and-dora-the-explorer-super-bowl-commercial-steelers/2790380674558721/

Do you figure that was how his teams experienced him in general as their head coach?

Now compare that to the following, which is actually being communicated to a team by its head coach on a pro football field just before the kickoff in a game:

https://www.tiktok.com/@nfl/video/7439454438915444014

[Spider-Dan]

To try to defend this point, you are forced to cite a video Cowher made 20 years after his retirement from coaching.

Andy Reid is a current NFL coach.

[Dolfanalyst]

To try to defend this point, you are forced to cite a video made 20 years after Bill Cowher's retirement.

Andy Reid is a current NFL coach.

The question is, do you figure Andy Reid's teams experience him in general the way a script tells him to portray himself in a TV commercial?

Nobody had to give Mike McDaniel a script for the following -- he generated it himself and communicated it to his team, on a pro football field just before the kickoff in a game:

https://www.tiktok.com/@nfl/video/7439454438915444014