Is the Democrat party breaking up?

[Sibster]

As we speak, immigrants are being shipped to the offshore base we used for torturing people.
Another lie.  As I cited earlier, the Trump Administration just snatched up a student activist with legal permanent resident (green card) status, cancelled his green card, and is in the process of deporting him.  Let me guess: protesting Israel means he must be a "Hamas-aligned terrorist" and therefore has no legal rights.

And that's the difference: when we call the right "Nazis," we are not proposing that they be snatched up and disappeared into offshore gulags with no legal recourse.
Yet when y'all call your political opponents "terrorists," you support Nazi solutions to deal with them.  Literal Gestapo tactics.

You want to call us Nazis and a party of hate?  Have I got news for you, son.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AHBwa36d2/?mibextid=D5vuiz

[Sunstroke]

^^^ Just a suggestion... If you really want anyone with an opposing viewpoint to actually click on a random link (like yours there), try being a little more descriptive with it. Like possibly a short synopsis of why you're not with a party of hate, you know, to try to entice folks into exposing themselves to whatever propaganda useful and informative nugget o' news is lying in wait at the other end of that link.

[Spider-Dan]

That link is just more of the same old "Did you know that racists of the past were Democrats (up until Democrats passed the Civil Rights Act, then the racists switched to the Republican Party in response)?" trope.

[Sunstroke]

^^^ I know...I was just chop-busting for not even trying to disguise or sell that  link.

[Sibster]

That link is just more of the same old "Did you know that racists of the past were Democrats (up until Democrats passed the Civil Rights Act, then the racists switched to the Republican Party in response)?" trope.

The Democrats passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is a complete myth.   While both the House and Senate had a Democratic majority, there was a LOT of Democratic opposition to it.   Way more than Republican.   

In the House, the bill passed with a vote of 285-126.  Out of those 126 Congressmen voting against it, 107 were Democrat.

In the Senate, the bill passed with with a vote of 72-18.  Of the 18 Senators who voted against it, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM was a Democrat.   Your party has always had the look of a narcissist who feels the need to control everything and everyone and throws a fit like a toddler when they don't get their way.   

Another perfect example:  Conservatives hated Bud Light and Target associating with the LGBTQ community and simply boycotted them and caused them to lose billions in revenue.   Liberals hate Elon Musk, so they are going and setting the cars he invented on fire.   And to think last year, they were pushing to make electric vehicles mandatory.

[Spider-Dan]

The Democrats passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is a complete myth.   While both the House and Senate had a Democratic majority, there was a LOT of Democratic opposition to it.   Way more than Republican.

Democrats controlled Congress and the White House, so they get credit for bills that pass.  That's how it works.
And as I just said, there were many racists in the Democratic Party, who did indeed vote against the CRA; after it passed, they left the Democratic Party (ultimately landing in the Republican Party).  So I'm not sure what your point is here.

Another perfect example:  Conservatives hated Bud Light and Target associating with the LGBTQ community and simply boycotted them and caused them to lose billions in revenue.   Liberals hate Elon Musk, so they are going and setting the cars he invented on fire.

When Democrats were upset about losing the 2016 election, they marched while wearing pussy hats.
When Republicans were upset about losing the 2020 election, they sent a violent mob to take over the Capitol and prevent Biden from being certified as President, by force.

Spare me the tales of noble conservative restraint.

[Sibster]

When Democrats were upset about losing the 2016 election, they marched while wearing pussy hats.
When Republicans were upset about losing the 2020 election, they sent a violent mob to take over the Capitol and prevent Biden from being certified as President, by force.

Spare me the tales of noble conservative restraint.

Oh they did a helluva lot more than march.  They started a massive fear campaign which led to a pandemic when the shutdowns were completely unnecessary.  Then they started violent protests in a bunch of cities across the U.S. over the summer.  All this was to make Trump look bad.  Then despite all that, it took some rigging in certain states for them to win the 2020 election.   So don't give me that shit. 

[CF DolFan]

Perhaps you should tell this to the guy who started this thread complaining about "the extreme left controlling the Democrats," yet votes for Trump at every opportunity and is a serial Trump apologist time and time again, no matter what he does.

You don't actually believe MAGA is extreme.  This is just more song-and-dance so you can try to convince yourself that you are the reasonable moderate.

I absolutely do fight against extreme MAGA. Not everyone who supports MAGA are brainwashed to follow anything Trump says or does.  FYI ... Extreme MAGA hates Ron DeSantis while most of us Republicans will vote for whomever Ron backs. The extreme side of MAGA is very ugly even amongst others who support MAGA. The extreme side thinks anything Trump does is right whether conservative or not. They are far from being the majority of the party.  People like me call him and them out on his stupid things like calling for Thomas Massie's head when all he did was refuse to vote for a bill raising the debt. That's absolutely counter to being a conservative. that part of MAGA expects people's complete and utter surrender to whatever Trump says. In the State of Florida there is going to be a huge battle between Trump backed Byron Donalds and whomever DeSantis supports. Extreme MAGA spends a lot of time trying to pretend DeSantis hasn't been the biggest supporter of Trump's policies than anyone else. They think he needs to get behind Donalds because Trump said so. It isn't ever going to happen as Donalds is in bed with Trulieve lobbyist Suzy Wiles (whom DeSantis fired for being unloyal), Trulieve, and Big Sugar. He's basically Charlie Crist before he jumped back to the Democrats. They use the democrat playbook of blaming their enemy for the same things they are doing. They like to pretend Ron is a RINO when in fact it's clearly the guys they are supporting. Donalds literally sided with CNN and called DeSantis removal of DEI as racist. This was after he called for the jailing and prosecution of every single January 6th participant. Hahaha ... neither are hardly the GOP line of thought but somehow extreme MAGA sees no issue because Trump said so.

I get you guys don't believe me, because you would never do it, but I had no intention of voting for Trump until he was so obviously politically attacked. It was sickenly obvious. He an arse, and I do not like the way he handles business. His policies do align for the most part so I can get behind that.  Here locally we are voting for the person to replace Mike Waltz in Congress. The GOP person, Randy Fine, is backed by Trump but little else. He's a piece of crap for several reasons, both in and out of politics. We are voting libertarian so if the Dem wins, it's because Trump is backing a loyalist who really shouldn't ever have any power. Sadly, most people will vote for him because he has an R next to his name but that actually means little in the Florida Legislature as they are really purple at best. DeSantis has been the only one fighting for conservatives.

[Spider-Dan]

Dude, you are a 3-time Trump voter and perpetual Trump apologist.
I don't know what you have to tell yourself to try to maintain your dignity while supporting a guy who is obviously against every value you claim to hold, but it isn't working.  For example:

I get you guys don't believe me, because you would never do it, but I had no intention of voting for Trump until he was so obviously politically attacked.

Nobody buys this.  You were always voting for the Republican, and I don't know why you would lie to yourself so blatantly.  You were always going to find some excuse to be outraged over so you could rationalize voting for Trump yet again.

[CF DolFan]

^^^ I take it you don't know anyone with integrity. Either way ... the lady Trump just put up to lead the CDC is a horrible pick and should make people like you happy. Not sure how a lady who advocates Covid vaccines for 6 month olds is supposed to work with Kennedy or support the Republican agenda. It's another freaking Susie Wiles pick. 

[Fau Teixeira]

^^^ I take it you don't know anyone with integrity. Either way ... the lady Trump just put up to lead the CDC is a horrible pick and should make people like you happy. Not sure how a lady who advocates Covid vaccines for 6 month olds is supposed to work with Kennedy or support the Republican agenda. It's another freaking Susie Wiles pick. 

you don't like her because she's too much of a scientist for the CDC ?

[Sibster]

^^^ I take it you don't know anyone with integrity. Either way ... the lady Trump just put up to lead the CDC is a horrible pick and should make people like you happy. Not sure how a lady who advocates Covid vaccines for 6 month olds is supposed to work with Kennedy or support the Republican agenda. It's another freaking Susie Wiles pick. 

It's funny how there are billions of unvaxxed people out there living a great life

[Spider-Dan]

I take it you don't know anyone with integrity.

Let's be clear on what "integrity" means in this sentence: you claim you "had no intention of voting for Trump" a THIRD time... but you did anyway.
And why?  Not despite his felony convictions, but specifically because of them.

You're right.  I don't know anyone with that sort of "integrity."

Listen dude, whatever you need to tell yourself in the mirror to sleep at night is on you.  But if you make a thread like this in another desperate attempt to own the libs, don't expect us to just ignore your complete abdication of all your moral high ground.

[CF DolFan]

Let's be clear on what "integrity" means in this sentence: you claim you "had no intention of voting for Trump" a THIRD time... but you did anyway.
And why?  Not despite his felony convictions, but specifically because of them.

You're right.  I don't know anyone with that sort of "integrity."

Listen dude, whatever you need to tell yourself in the mirror to sleep at night is on you.  But if you make a thread like this in another desperate attempt to own the libs, don't expect us to just ignore your complete abdication of all your moral high ground.

I was more referring to the fact you never take me at my word. Whatever. I honestly wouldn't spend time typing out something that I believed was untrue. It may not be the actual fact but I can assure you that is what I believe if I say it is.

BTW ... Randy Fine who has Trump's endorsement,  is struggling to secure Mike Waltz's seat but my wife and I ( as well as many others) refuse to vote for him as he is an actual piece of crap. Him being a Republican makes no difference to us. Trump won this area by 30 points. It should have been a slam dunk.