Ricky williams and Dan Marino

[raptorsfan29]

are going to be on 5 reasons you can't blame

Date Subject
Jan. 24, 2006  Dan Marino for Never Winning a Super Bowl

Sept. 12, 2006  Ricky Williams for Leaving Football

[TonyB0D]

what is it?

[raptorsfan29]

The Top 5 Reasons You Can't Blame... is a series that examines the athletes, coaches, front office personnel and even fans who over the years have been blamed for either a team's failure, their individual failure, a bad trade, a bad draft pick, or the demise of a franchise.


The shows begin by explaining why that individual or team has been blamed over the years and then it peels away the layers between fact and fiction and count down the Top 5 Reasons You Can't Blame them.

This fast-paced series is a mix of documentary storytelling and the entertaining elements that make countdown shows fun to watch


This is what it says on there site  It's on ESPN classic

[jtex316]

How can you NOT blame Ricky Williams?  HE LEFT THE NFL AND BROKE HIS CONTRACT TO GO SMOKE POT.  In fact it doesn't matter what he did afterwards - the BOTTOM LINE is that he broke his NFL contract.  NO EXCUSE for that.

[raptorsfan29]

if you watch the show, you'll find out

My guessing of the 5 reasons is
1) Coaching
2) Offensive line
3) the team was going nowhere
4) Lenny (whatever his last name is)
5) no clue

[Thundergod]

Ricky
Dave Wannstedt
30+ carries a game
Tired of football/politics of
Pot
Introvert

Dan
No defense
No RB
Buffalo Bills
Jimmy Johnson
Olivadotti (see also: defense)

[CF DolFan]

Ricky Williams



5) Desire to severely fukk over one of Sunstroke's FFL money teams  

This was one of the underlying facts that the public rarely gets a glimpse of!  

[YoFuggedaboutit]

How can you NOT blame Ricky Williams?  HE LEFT THE NFL AND BROKE HIS CONTRACT TO GO SMOKE POT.  In fact it doesn't matter what he did afterwards - the BOTTOM LINE is that he broke his NFL contract.  NO EXCUSE for that.

Joe, let me reiterate this again.  Ricky did NOT leave to go smoke pot.  Hell, he needed pot to ease the pain from the constant poundings his body was taking week in and week out!!!  Ricky left because he did not want to play for Dave Wannstedt.  He had 775 carries the past two seasons and was tired of it.  He looked around, saw his team was no closer to the Super Bowl than it was when he came in 2002, saw his O-Line sucked, and saw that Wanny was gonna give him another 400 carries.  That's when he decided, "The hell with it!!  I'm not playing for this loser coach anymore!!!"  I wish he would've come out and said that instead of handling it the way he did.  

[Dave Gray]

In the long term, I think Ricky's leaving actually helped the team.  It solidified the choice to draft Ronnie Brown, ushered in an entire new coaching staff (including Houck, Linehan, and Saban), AND you got to keep Ricky Williams at a slave's wage, because we've got him by the balls financially.

[JVides]

I think Bob Ley actually did mention it on ESPN's "WAY Outside the Lines."

I caught that show on ESPN42.  The footage of a broken, downtrodden Sunstroke was quite compelling.  The scene in which you looked at the camera, tears spilling from your eyes, and asked, "Why, Ricky?" had a kind of "jilted ex-girlfriend" quality to it but was touching nonetheless.

[Thundergod]

Joe, let me reiterate this again.  Ricky did NOT leave to go smoke pot.  Hell, he needed pot to ease the pain from the constant poundings his body was taking week in and week out!!!  Ricky left because he did not want to play for Dave Wannstedt.  He had 775 carries the past two seasons and was tired of it.  He looked around, saw his team was no closer to the Super Bowl than it was when he came in 2002, saw his O-Line sucked, and saw that Wanny was gonna give him another 400 carries.  That's when he decided, "The hell with it!!  I'm not playing for this loser coach anymore!!!"  I wish he would've come out and said that instead of handling it the way he did.  

Couldn't have said it any better myself.  Tommy, you rock.  

[JVides]

I still consider it the worst FFL trade I've ever made...

Ouch, baby...

[JVides]

Dan
No defense
No RB
Buffalo Bills
Jimmy Johnson
Olivadotti (see also: defense)

My nominations:
No Defense (When Jeff Cross is your best D-lineman...)
Horrible drafting (They could have had Thurman Thomas)
No running back (Couldn't even name them all)
90's Buffalo Bills (AFC powerhouse)
Tom Olivadotti (1992 v. Bills..It's called a SCREEN PASS!!)

[YoFuggedaboutit]

My nominations:

No running back (Couldn't even name them all)

Tom Olivadotti (1992 v. Bills..It's called a SCREEN PASS!!)

How about this:

No running back-  Tony Nathan, Ron Davenport, Lorenzo Hampton, Troy Stradford, Sammie Smith, Mark Higgs, Marc Logan, Bernie Parmalee, Terry Kirby, Irving Spikes, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, John Avery, Cecil Collins.

Tom "Olive Head" Olivadotti (1995 vs Bills.... 341 rushing yards allowed??  ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???)

[JVides]

No running back-  Tony Nathan, Ron Davenport, Lorenzo Hampton, Troy Stradford, Sammie Smith, Mark Higgs, Marc Logan, Bernie Parmalee, Terry Kirby, Irving Spikes, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, John Avery, Cecil Collins.

Bobby Humphrey, James Johnson...it goes on for miles, this list...