Muslim Reaction to Political Cartoons

[YoFuggedaboutit]

I just hope we find Osama soon.  I'd love to see that towelheaded cocksucker get what's coming to him.  Then we'll see what Al Qaeda is really made of.  I think without their leader, that organization will collapse like a house of cards. 

[Spider-Dan]

The difference between Christianity and Islam is only that Christianity is no longer in direct control of the governments.  Christian theocracies were at least as bad as the Muslim theocracies are today.

As far as the whole "Christians are much more civilized... they would never commit such terrorist acts based on religious differences" act... ever hear of the Irish Republican Army?  Oh, but they've stopped bombing for almost a decade, so I guess they no longer count.

The fanaticism of a religious group almost directly correlates to the power that group overtly wields in the government.  If you think Christianity is a religion of peace, try reading the Old Testament (or, more importantly, try following the laws set forth in the Old Testament and see how long you can stay out of prison).

As to the original post:

Run a cartoon of Jesus machinegunning some Arab child down, and I think the outcry would be quite similar.  Religious fanatics are, well, fanatical.  That's what they do.

[run_to_win]

Compared to the world wide storm of muslim fanaticism the IRA was merely spitting in the wind.

Run a cartoon of Jesus machinegunning some Arab child down, and I think the outcry would be quite similar.  Religious fanatics are, well, fanatical.  That's what they do.

Cartoons and articles disparaging Jews and Christians appear quite often in the Muslim world.  No Jihads, homicide bombers or violent protests yet.   

[Frimp]

Compared to the world wide storm of muslim fanaticism the IRA was merely spitting in the wind.
Cartoons and articles disparaging Jews and Christians appear quite often in the Muslim world.  No Jihads, homicide bombers or violent protests yet.   

They also appear in US papers, TV shows, movies, newscasts, etc. None of us are killing people over it.

[Spider-Dan]

Compared to the world wide storm of muslim fanaticism the IRA was merely spitting in the wind.

So you're dismissing the bombings done by the IRA because they weren't worldwide?   Let's recap, then:

Does Christianity have a history of violent, immoral reaction equal to that of Islam?  Check.
Does Christianity still have terrorist cells in modern-day times executing "homocide bombings"?  Check.

Do you know what year it is by the Muslim calendar?  1427.  Compared to Christianity circa 1427 AD, Islam is rather peaceful and tolerant, I'd say.  If you had made any such statement against Christ Jesus at that time, you would have been swiftly executed by the state.

Of course, this is like comparing cat sh*t to dog sh*t.  Both reek.  I'm not going to sit here and praise the tolerance and peacefulness of Islam, because (like any religion in power) it simply is not.  But I'm also not going to sit here and listen to people say "Oh, my religion is so much more civilized and respectable."  News flash: it isn't.  If the church were still running things, we'd still be burning witches at the stake.

One more note:

When these organizations begin homocide bombings THEN I'll see your point.

Salvation Army
Church World Service
Lutheran World Relief 
Bread for the World 
World Vision International@ 
World Relief

Do you honestly believe that Muslim charities do not exist?  It would take me all of 90 seconds on Google to churn out a list of respectable Muslim charities that don't have anything to do with suicide bombings, but I just wanted to clarify your position first.

[Frimp]

^^^ Run to win mentioned this in another thread about not feeling guilty because his great great great great grandfather may have owned slaves. I also will not feel guilty because hundreds of years ago, Christians were fanatical. This is NOW. Those of us who are alive NOW have no control over what happened THEN.

[run_to_win]

You have no interest in clarifying anything.  All you want to do is misquote and rant.  Knock yourself out.

90 seconds to google muslim charities?  Dial up or just a slow typist?   

[Spider-Dan]

^^^ Run to win mentioned this in another thread about not feeling guilty because his great great great great grandfather may have owned slaves. I also will not feel guilty because hundreds of years ago, Christians were fanatical. This is NOW. Those of us who are alive NOW have no control over what happened THEN.

That's perfectly fine.  I'll go one further:

How about you feel guilty for things that you have done?  Isn't that reasonable and logical?

So if you're a peaceful, upstanding citizen of America, Britain, Russia, Egypt, or Turkey who just happens to be Muslim, then you wouldn't feel "guilty" for something that you had nothing to do with.

Or does it not work that way?  Are they supposed to feel guilty?

[run_to_win]

^^^ Run to win mentioned this in another thread about not feeling guilty because his great great great great grandfather may have owned slaves.

Minor clarification - I was talking about someone else feeling guilty.  Most of my ancestors came here as dirt poor immigrants late in the slavery era - some as indentured servants.  Not that I would feel guilty, but my ancestors were closer to slaves than slave owners.  I live near the West Coast because when their period of servitude was over they wanted to get as far away from the  East Coast as they could.

[Frimp]

That's perfectly fine.  I'll go one further:

How about you feel guilty for things that you have done?  Isn't that reasonable and logical?

So if you're a peaceful, upstanding citizen of America, Britain, Russia, Egypt, or Turkey who just happens to be Muslim, then you wouldn't feel "guilty" for something that you had nothing to do with.

Or does it not work that way?  Are they supposed to feel guilty?

No, but maybe they should publicly decry these bastards who are making them look bad.

[Spider-Dan]

You have no interest in clarifying anything.  All you want to do is misquote and rant.  Knock yourself out.

[Frimp]

Minor clarification - I was talking about someone else feeling guilty.  Most of my ancestors came here as dirt poor immigrants late in the slavery era - some as indentured servants.  Not that I would feel guilty, but my ancestors were closer to slaves than slave owners.  I live near the West Coast because when their period of servitude was over they wanted to get as far away from the  East Coast as they could.

Thats fine. I wasnt calling you out. I was agreeing with you. My ancestors DID own slaves, and I'm not ashamed at all. I wasnt there.

[run_to_win]

Wow, the internet equivalent of "I know you are but what am I?" 

Third grade was quite a while for me but if I remember right this is the appropriate respone.


Here's a sophomoric response if that's more appropriate:

[run_to_win]

Thats fine. I wasnt calling you out.

I know.  No problem.  Just because I live near "San Francisco North" doesn't mean I can afford to be hit with the reparation claims.   

[Spider-Dan]

Wow, the internet equivalent of "I know you are but what am I?"

Not exactly.  If anyone is going to accuse someone of "misquoting and ranting," it probably shouldn't be you.  It seems that on any political topic, your only interest is in making personal attacks and claiming that everyone else is a delusional liberal hippie, without actually addressing the points made (see: how you conveniently dismissed the IRA and completely ignored the followup).

So I'm somewhat less concerned when you accuse me of ranting, or of having some sort of agenda.